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Old 10-08-2015, 08:13 PM   #225
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2007 Dodge Nitro 3.7L 4x4
1997 Bigfoot 17 CB

Total loaded weight: 8184 lbs
Loaded trailer weight: 3234 lbs + tounge weight

Mileage: (all on pavement, half freeway, half twisty and hilly roads)
18.5 L/100K
16 miles per Imp. gallon
13 miles per US gallon

"best" mileage conditions: 17 L/100K
going "off road" for a good portion of the trip and total mileage can drop to 22 L/100K

real world...at the price of gas these days, where I am, it translates into twenty to twenty five cents per kilometer

Do I "win"?......
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:03 PM   #226
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2014 Nissan Frontier 4dr, 4.0L V6
17' Casita Spirit Deluxe
Highway towing at 70 MPH 15.5 MPG
Non-Towing average 19-20 MPG
My Nissan Frontier of similar spec. pulling a 19 foot Scamp seems to return similar fuel usage.
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Old 10-20-2015, 12:29 PM   #227
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Trailer: 2015 Casita 17' Spirit Deluxe
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2014 Nissan Frontier, V-6, 2 wheel drive
2015 Casita 17
22 plus without towing and 12-16 towing

Looking for a bigger truck with more power.
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Old 10-20-2015, 04:06 PM   #228
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Trailer: 1996 Casita LD
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2010 F150 Supercab Lariat. 5.4L V-8, with OEM towing option and OEM brake controller

Pulling 1996 Casita 17 foot LD.

I would rather have more than adequate TV, than a marginal TV.

18MPG without a trailer, 14MPG with the trailer.

I've been down the road before with a marginal TV, got tired of cresting mountain passes at 35 MPH, overheating, etc. Lesson learned.
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:58 PM   #229
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Trailer: '84 Scamp 13' & 2001 Casita 17' Spirit Deluxe
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2008 Toyota Tacoma long bed, 4 Dr, 4WD, 4.0L V-6. Auto Trans. factory tow pkg, Tekonsha P-3 brake controller. Leer hi-rise fiberglass camper shell.

2001 Casita 17' Spirit Deluxe, all normal deluxe options except no furnace. The roof mounted Carrier A/C has heat strip. 16gal fresh water tank, 16gal black water tank, & 28gal grey water tank.

Truck alone (with shell) gets 20-21mpg highway depending on speed/terrain; towing Casita, 16-19mpg (checked over about 5K miles) again depending on speed & terrain. I usually drive between 55-60 mph, sometimes 65 on freeway, flat & level.

Haven't weighed my Casita but I expect it's in excess of 2500#, possibly considerably more. We try never to tow with any/much water in the waste holding tanks, & usually not more'n 8 gal or less in fresh water tank.

I credit the Hi-rise camper shell with much of the good to fair fuel mileage/efficiency as it 'flares' on top, & somewhat at rear sides, directing air flow over & around the trailer. The round/curved front of the Casita also gets considerable credit.

We've towed the Casita through mountains in Arizona & New Mexico up to 8-9K ft, & thru the Arkansas & Missouri Ozarks with absolutely no loss of performance even on steep grades above 5K ft. The 4.0L V-6 is an admirable performer for an 'egg' my size & weight. Probably helps that we haven't yet 'loaded it out' with gear/supplies for trip of more'n a couple of weeks...
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:51 AM   #230
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Subaru Outback 2,5l with a trillium loaded at 1000kg. Average: 14 l per100km.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:40 PM   #231
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This spreadsheet is the best thing ever. I'm new here, looking to buy a used Scamp 13'. I have a Subaru Outback, 2008 AWD 4cyl. I would love to get a 16' Scamp but I don't think our Outback can handle it. I see most of the Outbacks on this spreadsheet tow the 13', but one person has a 16'. Interesting.

Great site and thank you to whoever made this spreadsheet. It would be nice if the top row were frozen, so you know what each column is without having to scroll back up. You can do that in Google Docs by clicking on the the first row, click View, and Freeze 1 row.

Thanks!
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:33 PM   #232
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Better hang onto these Toyota gas guzzlers

Toyota says by the year 2050 all Trucks, cars will be running on electricity, I wonder how u will tow these trailers then? I often wonder what just the driving range will be on Electricity??? I sure hope they can go farther than a few miles before recharge is needed.
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:22 PM   #233
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This spreadsheet is the best thing ever. I'm new here, looking to buy a used Scamp 13'. I have a Subaru Outback, 2008 AWD 4cyl. I would love to get a 16' Scamp but I don't think our Outback can handle it. I see most of the Outbacks on this spreadsheet tow the 13', but one person has a 16'. Interesting.

Thanks!
Guess I'll have to add my Subaru then. I usually tow with our V-8 Dodge Dakota, but once in a while if I plan a short trip but plenty of solo miles, I'll take the Subaru.

The following info is based on having the Scamp configured for the 200 lb tongue weight required by Subaru. (I have to remove one of the dual propane tanks, rack, and then fill the fresh water tank with water)

Tow vehicle: 2008 Subaru Outback, 2.5 4 cyl, auto. added transmission cooler just in case. anti-sway bar. Prodigy brake controller.
MPG solo highway 28. Towing 18+. Last weeks trip to the Smokies was 18.8 overall.

Camper: 05 Scamp, 16' side dinette, front bath, 2540 lbs total per CAT scale with full fresh water, clothes, hot water. 210 tongue weight, which is slightly above the Subaru max but just inside their 8% recommended minimum.

Subaru handles well and engine braking works well. This is the old style 4 speed automatic, Subaru recommends using Sport mode with this transmission. Only issue is that my truck has more room to bring stuff, especially for our longer trips, so it gets used more often.
I would recommend that if you go for the 16', just try to minimize the weight to keep it under the maximums. I think the side bath or no bath would give you a lighter tongue weight and less need to add so much water for balancing.
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:39 PM   #234
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I would recommend that if you go for the 16', just try to minimize the weight to keep it under the maximums. I think the side bath or no bath would give you a lighter tongue weight and less need to add so much water for balancing.
I have a Scamp 16' Sidebath I pulled with an Outback and my trailer appears twice on the Real World Weight list - once with the tongue at 200lbs total weight of trailer 2520lbs and again with 240lbs on the tongue and total weight of trailer 2600lbs. The reason for the jump in tongue weight to 240lbs is I found the trailer to be way to wiggly for my liking with only 200lbs on the tongue - actually only ever towed it for a day or so with it at 200lb tongue weight.

My Scamp at those weigh ins had no water other than a gallon in the toilet, no AC, No Microwave, 1 battery, 1 propane tank.

As I found it impossible to keep the tongue weight within Subaru's 200lb limit and I started having a higher than expected number of repairs on the Outback I stopped towing with it and recommend those starting out stick to a 13' trailer with it.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:06 AM   #235
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Trailer: 2003 Scamp 16'
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2002 Toyota Highlander 3.0 V6, factory tow pkg, rated for 3500/350, Prodigy controller
2003 Scamp 16' Deluxe, 13" Marathon tires, 2500/250
24 mpg not towing @ 60 mph
16 mpg towing avg @ 55 mph (15 mpg in mountains or against heavy wind; 18 on flat ground)
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:16 PM   #236
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Thanks Sands, info has been added. I have the opposite experience with mountain towing, my MPG goes up. Probably because I slow down in the mountains (usually there are many curves, plus I am enjoying the scenery).
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:03 PM   #237
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1980 Burro 13'
27-32 not towing
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:24 PM   #238
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Trailer: Previously Scamp 13 2002,2016. Scamp 16 on order
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2015 Toyota Tacoma, double cab, PreRunner, 2.7 four cyl. 4spd auto, 4.10 rear end.
24 regular driving, 16-18 towing.
13' Scamp. (2002 pictured) Recently replaced with 2016 Scamp 13'.
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