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07-05-2019, 09:48 PM
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#381
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Junior Member
Name: Kari
Trailer: Planning
MN
Posts: 8
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Thanks a ton. Really appreciate the report. It is between this and a Highlander at this point.
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07-06-2019, 12:17 AM
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#382
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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a fresh pic of the rig, in the morning after overnighting in a pullout on the Extraterrestrial Highway that skirts Area 51 in central Nevada...
click to embiggen
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07-06-2019, 12:24 PM
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#383
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Junior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Oliver
Utah
Posts: 25
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Here are the facts on my tow vehicle and trailer:
Tow Vehicle: Audi Q7 2017
Engine: 3.0L V6, 8spd
Manf Tow Rating: 7700
Trailer: Oliver Elite II 23.5
Trailer Weight lbs: 5000
Tire Size: 225/75/16
Tire Brand: Michelin LTX M/S2
Towing MPG: 14
Non-tow MPG: 28
Typ Tow Speed: 65
Misc:
Owner: DavidJS
And the obligatory photo of our rig:
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David from Salt Lake City, UT
Oliver Elite II Trailer
Audi Q7 Tow Vehicle
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07-06-2019, 12:30 PM
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#384
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Junior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Oliver
Utah
Posts: 25
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I have always wondered how many units of each brand of fiberglass trailer have been sold.
I took the data in the spreadsheet and came up with the following percentages:
Scamp 24%
Casita 18%
Escape 12%
Bigfoot 11%
Trillium 7%
Boler 5%
and Bonair, Burro, Compact, Eggcamper, Lil Snoozy, Oliver, and Uhaul all come in at 2-3%.
Of course, it is possible that Scamp owners are simply more likely to respond to a survey like this...
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David from Salt Lake City, UT
Oliver Elite II Trailer
Audi Q7 Tow Vehicle
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07-07-2019, 12:56 PM
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#385
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Senior Member
Trailer: 93 Burro 17 ft
Posts: 6,024
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Table is up-to-date, thanks all. BTW the tire info columns were created due to interest in trailer tires (a few years ago blowouts were more common). DavidJS, are those Michelins on your trailer or your tug?
I had an email with data from GpaNed... Ned, if you read this, please confirm whether your Scamp is a 13' (I would assume so from the light weight).
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07-07-2019, 01:48 PM
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#386
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Junior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Oliver
Utah
Posts: 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Magee
DavidJS, are those Michelins on your trailer or your tug?.
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Those are trailer tires.
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David from Salt Lake City, UT
Oliver Elite II Trailer
Audi Q7 Tow Vehicle
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07-08-2019, 11:57 AM
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#387
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Junior Member
Name: Ron
Trailer: Casita
Oregon
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbie Mayer
Great to hear about the Ascent. It is on my short list if I ever get to actual car-shopping. How is it on mountain passes?
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We are in Willamette Valley, Portland Oregon.
Travel outside requires climb over 4000' pass across Mt. Hood on US 26, climb over Siskiyou Summit 4300' on I-5, or the 3600' Deadman's Pass on I-84 east.
The torque from the 2.5 L turbo is amazing.
I've climbed each, managed to remain at 3500 rpm or less while maintaining 50 mph or a bit better.
Both the GMC Acadia & Ford Explorer used previously generally rev'd to 45-5000 rpm or better to achieve the same climb speed.
We are pulling a 17' Casita, typically loaded for a 30 or longer excursion. Have never weighted to know exact.
Have only looked at the instant mpg readout once, at about 7, so no need to check again, but even with those climbs the overall milage on typically 2K mile journeys averages 18-20.
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07-11-2019, 09:30 AM
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#388
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Senior Member
Name: Justus
Trailer: Currently Shopping
California
Posts: 291
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Our Hymer is kind of a platypus egg in that it may not be considered a true egg. However, it is a two-piece molded FG shell with a FG and canvas pop top.
1. 2015 Toyota Highlander XLE AWD
2. 3.5L V6
3. Hymer Touring GT (18'5")
4. Highway Towing: 18 mpg (@60-63 mph); non-towing: 25 mpg (@65-70 mph)
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07-11-2019, 12:42 PM
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#389
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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I previously said the tongue weight of my E21 was about 400 lbs with it fully loaded, 2 heavy bikes on a big rack, and a full tank of water.
I just weighed it with it partially loaded (no food or beverages, empty water+holding tanks, no bikes, but all our camping and cooking gear on board), and came up with about 480 lbs.
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07-15-2019, 08:33 PM
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#390
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1978 Boler 1700
Posts: 248
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1997 Bigfoot 25B21RB weighs 4400#
2018 GMC Canyon 2 WD crew cab 3.5 V6 28MPG empty and about 16 MPG towing (Canadian gallon)
Works excellent no equalizer hitch required but I do use a sway control friction arm
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07-26-2019, 10:20 AM
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#391
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Senior Member
Trailer: 93 Burro 17 ft
Posts: 6,024
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During this month's trip from OK to MI and back, I traveled 2,650 miles and used 205 gallons of regular unleaded in my Lexus GX470, for an average of 12.9 mpg towing my Hauley. I think my engine was built for longevity and not for economy.
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07-26-2019, 10:50 AM
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#392
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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geez, thats about the mileage I get driving too fast in my f250 7.3 diesel towing my 4500 lb e21 with a ton of gear in the back of the truck
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07-26-2019, 10:54 AM
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#393
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Senior Member
Name: Dick
Trailer: '15 17' LD Casita and '17 Tahoe LT
Texas
Posts: 321
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My '17 Tahoe runs in the 13/14 range. About the only time I know it is back there is when I look in the mirror and can't see out until I realize what's going on. Can even see around it with OEM side mirrors.
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06-16-2020, 02:13 PM
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#394
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Junior Member
Name: Dayton
Trailer: NA
Georgia
Posts: 21
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Long running thread!
1. 2014 Cadillac ATS
2. 3.6L v6
3. 2014 Scamp 16' Deluxe
4. 17.8 MPG w/ 68mph cruising speed; 27.5 MPG without trailer
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06-16-2020, 03:16 PM
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#395
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggberta
I’m looking to find a tow vehicle that will pull 3500 to 5000 lbs. I’ve been looking at a Ford Escape, but am getting different info from car dealers. One is saying that they nay come with a 2.0 L 4 cylinder with turbo. Is that going to be enough? I travel through the mountains on my way back and forth to AZ. I thought the Escape came in a 6 cylinder. I live in Canada, could it be the 6 cylinder is not available here? Anyone know?
If anyone has a strong recommendation for a T Vehicle, I’m open to suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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Explorer Yes
Escape No
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06-17-2020, 09:06 AM
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#396
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Member
Name: Philip
Trailer: Casita
Louisiana
Posts: 34
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2018 Casita 16 ft Liberty Deluxe
2016 Toyota Tacoma with 2.7 liter 4-cylinder with 6 speed automatic and 4:30 rear end ratio
18-19 mpg at 62 mph.
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2023 Casita 17’ Spirit Deluxe towed by 2022 Tacoma 3.5l V6
Formerly 2018 Casita 16’ Liberty Deluxe towed by 2016 Tacoma 2.7l 4-cyl
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