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03-14-2015, 04:47 PM
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#81
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Norm,
both of my Jeep Liberty models were rated 5000/500 lbs capacity. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD diesel which towed at 20 mpg and unhitched 28 mpg. My other 2012 Liberty had the v-6 gas engine and only got 15 mpg towing and 20 unhitched.
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Jim,
Good information.
What did you tow when you owned the jeeps...sorry I don't remember.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-14-2015, 05:05 PM
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#82
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Excellent
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6
Trailer: 1978 Fiber Stream 16'
Trailer weight: - 2006: 2620 lbs
- 2012: 3300 lbs
Tongue Weight: - 2006: 200 lbs
- 2012: 300 lbs
Mpg towing: - 2006: 16 average @ 55 mph
- 2006: 9 @ 70 mph
- 2012: 14 average @ 55 mph
Mpg not towing: Typical towing speed: - 55 mph on cruise control (see mpg towing above)
Misc: - Weight Distribution Hitch (required by manf. for 3500 lb tow rating)
Manf. Tow rating (trailer weight/hitch weight) - without trailer brakes: 1000 lbs/10%
- without weight distribution hitch: 1,850 lbs/10%
- without anti-sway bar: 2000 lbs/10%
with ALL of the above and including the driver- 2 occupants: 3,500 lbs/10%
- 3 occupants: 3,350 lbs/10%
- 4 occupants: 3,200 lbs/10%
- 5 occupants: 3,050 lbs/10%
- 6 occupants: 2,900 lbs/10%
- 7 occupants: 650 lbs/10% (rear GAWR limit)
... assuming each occupant weighs 150 lbs
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Excellent detail for your 2003 Odyssey.
What caused the Fiberstream to "gain" so much weight? Thank you so much. I'm considering how I might link all this information.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-14-2015, 06:47 PM
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#83
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Jim,
Good information.
What did you tow when you owned the jeeps...sorry I don't remember.
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I towed a Dutchman T@da and my Eggcamper with the diesel and I towed my Lance 1575 with the Liberty gas.
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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03-14-2015, 07:48 PM
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#84
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6...
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Typo…? I don't think Honda has ever made a 3.7L. 3.5L, maybe?
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03-15-2015, 12:34 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
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Added heavy stuff after the 2006 weigh-in: - 2nd 2" x 2" frame sistered below the original frame.
- swing-out double step
- 2nd set of cushions to make the King size bed foam 8" thick (was 4" thick)
- roof air conditioner with "heat strip"
- Closet shelves
- Drawers between Fridge & Entry Door
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03-15-2015, 07:15 AM
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#86
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: Escape 21 Nov.2016
Florida
Posts: 282
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tow
TV Toyota Sequoia with 4.7 V-8 279hp weight 5100lb 6500 tow rating and
6800 lb tow rating with rear seats taken out .
mpg =Towing 60 mph = 14 Non-towing =15 city -19 hwy mpg
tow 2013 Lil Snoozy twin bed version not made anymore?
weight 2500 lb according to Factory tongue weight 185 lb according to Factory?
I think the tongue weight to be a little more ? Also with bikes and assorted camping gear probably closer to 3000 lb .This trailer tows so nice going about 55-65 mph Jim
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03-15-2015, 11:48 AM
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#87
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thanks Jenny and Frederick.
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-15-2015, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: Escape 21 Nov.2016
Florida
Posts: 282
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Jim not Jenny
Hi Norm My call sign is jennykatz(Jennifer Kathryn Daughter ) but my Name Is Jim Widmann
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03-15-2015, 06:23 PM
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#89
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thanks Jim. I'll pay better attention.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-16-2015, 06:29 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: Escape 21 Nov.2016
Florida
Posts: 282
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No worries I should change my call sign .I try to always sign off with Jim .
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03-17-2015, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Denny
Trailer: Lil Snoozy
Michigan
Posts: 552
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2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 gas
2011 Lil Snoozy 2850 # actual weight
24-25 mpg not towing
16-17 mpg towing
Denny Wolfe
Wanderingourway.wordpress.com
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03-17-2015, 12:34 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Denny
Trailer: Lil Snoozy
Michigan
Posts: 552
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Redone with more complete data
Tow Vehicle: Jeep Grand Cherokee
Engine:3.6l V6 gas
Trailer: 2011 Lil Snoozy
Trailer weight: 2850
Tongue Weigh: 390
Mpg towing: 16-17
Mpg not towing:24-25
Typical towing speed:65
Misc: (adding things like wd, sway, air bags)jeep tow pkg has self leveling rear shocks
Manf. Tow rating (trailer weight/hitch weight) 6200#, 350# without WDH, 620 with WDH
Denny Wolfe
Wanderingourway.wordpress.com
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03-17-2015, 01:00 PM
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#93
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-17-2015, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19 (was 2005 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette and 2005 Fleetwood (Coleman) Taos pop-up)
Posts: 1,227
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I have two vehicles I routinely tow the Scamp with.
Tow Vehicle 1: 04 Dodge Dakota quad cab
Engine 4.7 V-8 (5 sp auto trans)
Manf. Tow Rating 6100 lbs
Trailer 16' Scamp side dinette
Trailer Weight lbs 2640 total loaded for trip with with cold/hot water (320 tongue weight)
Towing Mpg 14.5
Non-tow Mpg 19
Typ Tow Speed 62
Misc No sway control or WDH
Owner RADAR1
Tow Vehicle 2: 08 Subaru Outback
Engine 2.5 4 cyl (4 sp auto trans)
Manf. Tow Rating 2700
Trailer 05 16' Scamp side dinette
Trailer Weight 2600 lbs total loaded for trip with with cold/hot water (210 tongue weight)
Towing Mpg 18.5
Non-tow Mpg 28
Typ Tow Speed 60
Misc I remove one of the propane tanks and shift weight rearward to reduce the tongue weight when using the Subaru. Sway control used with Subaru.
Owner RADAR1
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Dave (and Marilyn who is now watching from above)
Sharpsburg, GA
04 Dodge Dakota V-8, 17 Dodge Durango V-6, 19 Ford Ranger 2.3 Ecoboost
radar1-scamping.blogspot.com
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03-17-2015, 06:15 PM
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#95
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Scamp 1999
Posts: 102
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We tow a 13" Scamp with a 2010 Subaru Forester, 2.5L 4 cyl. Trailer wt is 1500lbs, tow mpg = 17, non tow mpg= 27& towing speed is 58mph
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03-17-2015, 07:37 PM
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#96
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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13' Scamp standard, no bath, A/C or water heater. Weight 1700 lb axle, 175lb tongue,
tow 2005 Dodge Dakota 4.7l Magnum.
15.3 mpg over the last almost 6000 miles. (going over several high mountain passes)
Tow speed between 55 mph and 60 mph.
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03-18-2015, 05:53 AM
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#97
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-18-2015, 03:37 PM
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#98
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Senior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 128
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2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI (1.9L 4 cylinder Turbo Diesel - 5 spd manual)
1976 Trillium 1300
50 mpg (Canadian) not towing
30-35 mpg (Canadian) towing - have to verify though!
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03-18-2015, 03:54 PM
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#99
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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VW Turbo Diesel
We now have a VW added to our list, a turbo diesel that gets the best mileage of the group towing, in the 30 mpg range. It has the smallest engine at 1.9L. Very impressive.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-18-2015, 04:06 PM
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#100
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Senior Member
Name: Wayne
Trailer: Airstream Sold, Nest Fan
Ontario
Posts: 2,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
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Those are very good numbers Norm for the TDI. I like the way those German cars drive and would suspect that good road feel continues on even with trailer in tow.
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