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Old 03-12-2015, 01:45 PM   #71
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For legality purposes, tow caps are ok. Here's my tested scenario.

I have a 99 nissan frontier with 3500 lb cap and it's a 4 cyl. I attempted to "test pull" a 3000lb small Dutchmen stickie when I FIRST got interested in rv'ing. Ha.... it wouldnt get over 50 mph up a slight grade (much less a steep hill)!!

I wouldnt DREAM of getting anywhere near the max 3500 with that truck regardless what the manual states!!!
Darral, thns for the good info. You've brought to light a major flaw with the tow rating numbers that are found in the manuals.
As you have found out in your case, and in others too, they have nothing to do with actual on road towing ability or performance. One really needs to do a lot of research on a proposed tow vehicle before jumping in on "tow rating faith", alone.

Darral, what kind of mileage number are you getting towing the Scamp with the Frontier? Thnxs.
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:24 PM   #72
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:33 PM   #73
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Thnx MC1. I average 20 mpg. With a head/tail wind blowing @ apx 20mph, I've seen it vary +/- 2 mpg easy using my ScanGauge. Of course speed also plays a MAJOR factor as it can vary +/- 3-4mpg while running from 40mph to 65!! Ummm with the scangauge, I've also seen it dipping to 8-12'ish mpg range on major hills!! haha.

Darral, what kind of mileage number are you getting towing the Scamp with the Frontier? Thnxs.[/QUOTE]
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:28 AM   #74
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Trailer/tow vehicle combinations

Latest Update

I have reorganized the columns, moving manufacturer's tow vehicle rating adjacent to the tow vehicle. I have also started a notes section at the bottom to help explain some of the information.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml

Thank you for sending in information to make this possible and thanks to Mike Magee for starting the thread.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:09 PM   #75
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You're quite welcome!

Where are all the Jeep owners? Come on guys, post your Jeeps and trailers!
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Old 03-13-2015, 05:58 PM   #76
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Mike, Good point, No data on Jeeps, no VWs, darn few Chevys,...... Lets fill in the blanks.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:07 AM   #77
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Sorting the file

I have modified the file structure to allow people to easily sort the data by moving The data into their own spread sheet where it can be sorted using traditional techniques. This was done at the suggestion of a member.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml


Still looking for Jeep data.
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:03 AM   #78
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Norm,
both of my Jeep Liberty models were rated 5000/500 lbs capacity. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD diesel which towed at 20 mpg and unhitched 28 mpg. My other 2012 Liberty had the v-6 gas engine and only got 15 mpg towing and 20 unhitched.
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It depends on several variables

Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6
Trailer: 1978 Fiber Stream 16'

Trailer weight:
  • 2006: 2620 lbs
  • 2012: 3300 lbs
Tongue Weight:
  • 2006: 200 lbs
  • 2012: 300 lbs
Mpg towing:
  • 2006: 16 average @ 55 mph
  • 2006: 9 @ 70 mph
  • 2012: 14 average @ 55 mph
Mpg not towing:
  • 2006: 24
  • 2012: 22
Typical towing speed:
  • 55 mph on cruise control (see mpg towing above)
Misc:
  • Weight Distribution Hitch (required by manf. for 3500 lb tow rating)
Manf. Tow rating (trailer weight/hitch weight)
  • without trailer brakes: 1000 lbs/10%
  • without weight distribution hitch: 1,850 lbs/10%
  • without anti-sway bar: 2000 lbs/10%
with ALL of the above and including the driver
  • 2 occupants: 3,500 lbs/10%
  • 3 occupants: 3,350 lbs/10%
  • 4 occupants: 3,200 lbs/10%
  • 5 occupants: 3,050 lbs/10%
  • 6 occupants: 2,900 lbs/10%
  • 7 occupants: 650 lbs/10% (rear GAWR limit)
... assuming each occupant weighs 150 lbs
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My word! I thought I had posted on this long ago............oh well......age??

2014 Subaru Outback 2.5i CVT pulling a 2008 Little Joe. 31 mpg avg highway, 21 mph towing loaded. 55-60 mph. 1760 loaded. Subaru tow rating 2700 lb w/trailer brakes.
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:47 PM   #81
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Norm,
both of my Jeep Liberty models were rated 5000/500 lbs capacity. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD diesel which towed at 20 mpg and unhitched 28 mpg. My other 2012 Liberty had the v-6 gas engine and only got 15 mpg towing and 20 unhitched.
Jim,

Good information.

What did you tow when you owned the jeeps...sorry I don't remember.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:05 PM   #82
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Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6
Trailer: 1978 Fiber Stream 16'

Trailer weight:
  • 2006: 2620 lbs
  • 2012: 3300 lbs
Tongue Weight:
  • 2006: 200 lbs
  • 2012: 300 lbs
Mpg towing:
  • 2006: 16 average @ 55 mph
  • 2006: 9 @ 70 mph
  • 2012: 14 average @ 55 mph
Mpg not towing:
  • 2006: 24
  • 2012: 22
Typical towing speed:
  • 55 mph on cruise control (see mpg towing above)
Misc:
  • Weight Distribution Hitch (required by manf. for 3500 lb tow rating)
Manf. Tow rating (trailer weight/hitch weight)
  • without trailer brakes: 1000 lbs/10%
  • without weight distribution hitch: 1,850 lbs/10%
  • without anti-sway bar: 2000 lbs/10%
with ALL of the above and including the driver
  • 2 occupants: 3,500 lbs/10%
  • 3 occupants: 3,350 lbs/10%
  • 4 occupants: 3,200 lbs/10%
  • 5 occupants: 3,050 lbs/10%
  • 6 occupants: 2,900 lbs/10%
  • 7 occupants: 650 lbs/10% (rear GAWR limit)
... assuming each occupant weighs 150 lbs
Excellent detail for your 2003 Odyssey.

What caused the Fiberstream to "gain" so much weight? Thank you so much. I'm considering how I might link all this information.
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Jim,

Good information.

What did you tow when you owned the jeeps...sorry I don't remember.
I towed a Dutchman T@da and my Eggcamper with the diesel and I towed my Lance 1575 with the Liberty gas.
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Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6...
Typo…? I don't think Honda has ever made a 3.7L. 3.5L, maybe?
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