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03-30-2015, 04:35 PM
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#121
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thanks Sergey, More data makes it more useful
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml
Tow Vehicle
Engine
TV tow ratings,
Trailer Brand and size,
Trailer weight,
mpg towing
mpg not towing,
towing speed
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-30-2015, 04:49 PM
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#122
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shannon MacNeill
2010 Toyota Tacoma DCLB (Double Cab Long Box) TRD Sport, 4.0 L V6,
Towing 19' Escape 2600 lbs,
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2600 lbs for a 19' Escape? Really? Is this possible a typo?
seems about 1000lbs lighter than other 19' Escape weights I have heard off as well as those on the Real World Weight thread.
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03-30-2015, 06:53 PM
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#123
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Senior Member
Name: Paul
Trailer: '04 Scamp 19D, TV:Tacoma 3.5L 4door, SB
Colorado
Posts: 1,845
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Found an error in the line listing luverOlife setup. Only because I was looking for those who tow a 19 ft. 5th wheel Scamp.
Paul
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03-30-2015, 07:12 PM
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#124
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
2600 lbs for a 19' Escape? Really? Is this possible a typo?
seems about 1000lbs lighter than other 19' Escape weights I have heard off as well as those on the Real World Weight thread.
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That's the dry weight according to specs.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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03-30-2015, 07:31 PM
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#125
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Paul, I believe all the Scamp 19 listings are correct now.
As to Shannon's Escape, I've sent her a PM asking if that is the dry weight.
I generally do not correct submitted information unless I hear from the poster.
Thanks for your help.. I believe we'll gradually get it correct. Many postings have been updated and improved by the owners over time. Thank you to everyone for making it better.
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-30-2015, 07:44 PM
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#126
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
Tow Vehicle: 2003 Honda Odyssey
Engine: 3.7 liter V-6
Manf. Tow rating (trailer weight/hitch weight) - without trailer brakes: 1000 lbs/10%
- without weight distribution hitch: 1,850 lbs/10%
- without anti-sway bar: 2000 lbs/10%
with ALL of the above and including the driver- 2 occupants: 3,500 lbs/10%
- 3 occupants: 3,350 lbs/10%
- 4 occupants: 3,200 lbs/10%
- 5 occupants: 3,050 lbs/10%
- 6 occupants: 2,900 lbs/10%
- 7 occupants: 650 lbs/10% (rear GAWR limit)
... assuming each occupant weighs 150 lbs
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Trailer: 1971 Compact Jr.
Trailer Weight: 1700 lbs
Tongue Weight: 120 lbs
(Trailer has Brakes, but standard hitch, not WDH, no sway control)
mpg towing: 17 mpg
mpg not towing: 22
towing speed: 60 mph (between Yuma & Phoenix, AZ)
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03-30-2015, 08:26 PM
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#127
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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03-30-2015, 09:42 PM
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#128
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1978 Trillium 13 ft
Posts: 180
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Tow Vehicle,
engine,
TV: Subaru Outback, 2013 2.5L 4cyl CVT
trailer: 1978 Trillium 1300
trailer weight: 1600 - 1700 lbs
mpg towing: 19
mpg not towing: 28-30 hwy, 24 local
towing speed: 60 mph
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03-31-2015, 05:20 AM
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#129
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thank you for the new information.
Shannon's weight for the Escape is a dry weight. When it's weighed wet she will report but believes wet it weighs an additional 500 lbs.
Thank you all for your help.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-31-2015, 07:57 AM
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#130
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Senior Member
Name: Paul
Trailer: '04 Scamp 19D, TV:Tacoma 3.5L 4door, SB
Colorado
Posts: 1,845
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Paul, I believe all the Scamp 19 listings are correct now.
As to Shannon's Escape, I've sent her a PM asking if that is the dry weight.
I generally do not correct submitted information unless I hear from the poster.
Thanks for your help.. I believe we'll gradually get it correct. Many postings have been updated and improved by the owners over time. Thank you to everyone for making it better.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luvrOlife
1985 UHaul 13' CT
2011 Ford Escape Limited, V6 Auto 2WD
17-22 mpg towing (California hills burn fuel)
24-27 mpg around town
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This is a great spreadsheet, thank you Norm, for taking this on. I see that luvrOlife listed a UHaul, not a Scamp 19, so it is a typo. See quote.
Additional information for my entry: Scamp: 19D, weight: ~3000 lbs, Tacoma tow rating: 6500 lbs, Notes: Tow package, Towing speed 60 - 65, Mileage: 16.5MPG (flat Interstate), 14MPG hilly backroads of Appalachia
We just got back from Panhandle after two weeks+ of enjoying the warmth. However, well below freezing on the way down and on the way up. The Scamp got great accolades, from thumbs-up on the road, to "cute" at the campsites.
Thanks,
Paul
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03-31-2015, 04:08 PM
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#131
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Cuteness
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul O.
We just got back from Panhandle after two weeks+ of enjoying the warmth. However, well below freezing on the way down and on the way up. The Scamp got great accolades, from thumbs-up on the road, to "cute" at the campsites.
Thanks,
Paul
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There's no doubt that people find our trailers cute though I'm sure they wonder how we do it. As we travel around NA people are forever stopping by for visits; they really have a hard time believing we travel for such long, extended periods.
If we weren't so sure of ourselves I'd begin to wonder if we're missing something.We all have such large living spaces that it's hard for most to imagine living a living space the size of a typical American bathroom.
Even our RV friends, mostly with larger rigs, can conceive how we fit in our 44" Scamp 16 bed or travel with minimum 'stuff'.
Thriving on change, and embracing new is a valuable skill for a full time Rver. Cute isn't it.....
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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03-31-2015, 04:41 PM
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#132
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Member
Name: Jason
Trailer: Boler 13' 1973
British Columbia
Posts: 62
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Tow Vehicle & Trailer combos - POST INFO
2011 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4x4
Towing capacity just shy 10000#
1973 Boler 13'
Trailer weight 1410#
Fuel mileage towing 12 mpg
Fuel mileage not towing 15-17 mpg
Towing speed 55-65 mph
Sent from my iPhone using Fiberglass RV
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04-02-2015, 05:05 PM
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#133
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Senior Member
Name: Denny
Trailer: Lil Snoozy
Michigan
Posts: 552
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
There's no doubt that people find our trailers cute though I'm sure they wonder how we do it. As we travel around NA people are forever stopping by for visits; they really have a hard time believing we travel for such long, extended periods.
If we weren't so sure of ourselves I'd begin to wonder if we're missing something.We all have such large living spaces that it's hard for most to imagine living a living space the size of a typical American bathroom.
Even our RV friends, mostly with larger rigs, can conceive how we fit in our 44" Scamp 16 bed or travel with minimum 'stuff'.
Thriving on change, and embracing new is a valuable skill for a full time Rver. Cute isn't it.....
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Off topic but WTH, we move from a too big house filled with way too much stuff to our Lil Snoozy for five months/year. The simplicity and lack of "stuff" to take care of = Freedom! I feel like all that crap back home owns me.
We're hoping to downsize soon though, to a house a third the size of our current one. Living in the Snoozy showed us the way!
Denny Wolfe
Wanderingourway.wordpress.com
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04-02-2015, 05:48 PM
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#134
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Denny,
It's really a step process. When our kids left home we went from a huge house (4000 sq feet) to our beach cottage (1500), from that to a motorhome (256) and now to a Scamp 16 (92). The Park model is a little reversalthe living space is 450 square feet and the Florida room another 400 square feet. Of course most of the year we're in our Scamp 15, cheerfully happy in the space; I suppose because we have the world to ourselves.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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04-03-2015, 04:33 PM
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#135
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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04-03-2015, 06:23 PM
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#136
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 113
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Tow Vehicle - 2001 Toyota Tacoma Doublecab - 3.4 V6
14.5 mpg towing / 19.5 mpg otherwise
Scamp 19 Deluxe
3500 lbs gross if I'm careful / 650 tongue load
15" D rated LT tires
tow at 58 - 65 mph
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04-11-2015, 02:03 PM
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#137
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Senior Member
Name: Mark
Trailer: EggCamper 2012 #109, by 2006 Tundra or 2014 Outback
Western Massachusetts
Posts: 156
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Update: Eggcamper towed with Subaru Outback
Here's our Eggcamper. My records show a significant gain in MPG if we kept the speed down by just 10mph.
Tow Vehicle: 2014 Subaru Outback
Engine: 2.5, 4 cyl
Trailer: 2012 Eggcamper 17' (13' box)
Trailer weight: 2350
Tongue Weight: 200
Mpg towing:16 (trailer+car with camping equip)
Mpg not towing:32 hwy. (car, no camping equip)
Typical towing speed:60-65
Misc: sway control bar, no propane, loaded lightly
Manf. Tow rating max. is 2700# total weight, 200# tongue weight
Tow Vehicle: 2014 Subaru Outback
Engine: 2.5, 4 cyl
Trailer: 2012 Eggcamper 17' (13' box)
Trailer weight: 2350
Tongue Weight: 200
Mpg towing:21 (trailer+car with camping equip)
Mpg not towing:32 hwy.(car, no camping equip)
Typical towing speed:50-55
Misc: sway control bar, no propane, loaded lightly
Manf. Tow rating max. is 2700# total weight, 200# tongue weight
Both examples are with an average of 5 gallons of water total of all tanks
We put 8,400 miles on the Outback with this setup during February and March of this year, about 80% at 60-65 mph.
Thanks,
Mark
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04-11-2015, 02:59 PM
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#138
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thanks for the update Mark.
Speed definitely effects mpg. We only drive between 50-60, pm only faster on the Interstates.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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04-12-2015, 03:48 PM
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#139
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Senior Member
Name: Kathy
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Washington
Posts: 600
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I've been wanting to add our information for some time so finally here it is:
Tow Vehicle: 2007 Honda Ridgeline
Engine: 3.5 L, V6
Trailer: 1987 Bigfoot B17SW
Trailer weights: 2,700 lbs on axle, 298 lbs on tongue
Typical towing speed: 55-60 mph
Misc: sway bar
Sorry I don't have accurate mpg figures but we'll try to get some on our next trip - coming up soon at the end of this month!
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04-12-2015, 03:51 PM
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#140
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Senior Member
Name: Kathy
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Washington
Posts: 600
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Oh, I forgot to add manufacturer's tow rating which is 5,000 lbs with a 600 lb tongue weight.
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