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Old 03-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #57
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That is fair and reasonable Thomas. I am with you in that case.
Of course it is.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:01 PM   #58
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Use your stuff any way you want, as long as you don't endanger others or expect the rest of us to pay for failures caused by your failure to upgrade to a level needed for the task at hand, never operate beyond the capacity of the equipment or your own limitations.
Sure, that's even better version.

As Russ described, he's planning to upgrade as appropriate, and not expecting a warranty to pay if he misjudges.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:17 PM   #59
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My tow vehicle isn't quite a classic YET but it would be hard for me to replace. I have an old (2003) Dodge 3/4 ton short bed, quad cab with a cummins diesel in it. I had it set up with decent brake controller, air bags, towing chip, good shocks, good E rated tires and such for towing a 5th wheel. Well, we downsized from the 5th wheel to a 17' Casita. I figured if it towed the 5th wheel it could handle the Casita. What I didn't expect is just how well it works for a tow for the little trailer. This truck would have a street value of around $10k, so it's relatively cheap, everything about it is cheap except an oil change.

Last weekend is a good representative outing. We towed 512 miles round trip. About average for us. Mileage was just over 20 mpg, that's a bargain even considering the surcharge for diesel (My v6 van gets about 10mpg towing). It has enough power to pass anything a sane person might need to pass. In West Texas the speed limit is 80 on the freeway and I tow at 70 without ever having the transmission kicking out of OD. We have decent hills to climb too. The 3/4 ton trucks have bigger brakes, bigger radiators, bigger trans coolers, bigger everything that counts. Casita doesn't add much to the wear and tear (not going to void any warranty for sure). I use it for a daily driver so it saves me money again. I love having to use the mirrors to tell if the Casita is still back there.

I'm sure there are a lot of perfect tow cars and everyone is going to have a different idea of what that is.. For now an old Dodge diesel is it for me. Maybe if I ever get a diesel swapped into my old AWD Astro van or could afford the 2014 Jeep with the new Diesel, I'd change horses. Don't see that happening anytime soon.

A small 4-wheeler in the bed of the truck might be a nice addition for goofing around on some of the trails. Hmmm, I could do that! Could you do that with an SSR?

I've never had to complain about too MUCH tow vehicle. (-:}

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While I agree with that, he was not only overweight, but the guy was doing it with a lifted 4x4 with big tires. That is a total recipe for disaster, as anybody with a lifted vehicle and half a brain will tell you.
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That anecdote - which is long on speculation and short on facts - has been discussed a few times in this forum. The earliest that I found in a quick search was Risk of Towing Beyond the Limits.

I agree with Jared's comment. Responsibility - like negligence - goes beyond a simple weight rating.
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My tow vehicle isn't quite a classic YET but it would be hard for me to replace. I have an old (2003) Dodge 3/4 ton short bed, quad cab with a cummins diesel in it. I had it set up with decent brake controller, air bags, towing chip, good shocks, good E rated tires and such for towing a 5th wheel. Well, we downsized from the 5th wheel to a 17' Casita. I figured if it towed the 5th wheel it could handle the Casita. What I didn't expect is just how well it works for a tow for the little trailer. This truck would have a street value of around $10k, so it's relatively cheap, everything about it is cheap except an oil change.

Last weekend is a good representative outing. We towed 512 miles round trip. About average for us. Mileage was just over 20 mpg, that's a bargain even considering the surcharge for diesel (My v6 van gets about 10mpg towing). It has enough power to pass anything a sane person might need to pass. <snip> Casita doesn't add much to the wear and <snip>

I've never had to complain about too MUCH tow vehicle.
That is an impressive tow vehicle. I wish Chevy offered a short bed diesel 3/4 ton reg cab. Or a diesel Suburban.

What is your axle ratio? I assume it is 2x4...
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That is an impressive tow vehicle. I wish Chevy offered a short bed diesel 3/4 ton reg cab. Or a diesel Suburban.

What is your axle ratio? I assume it is 2x4...
Has 3.73 gears (or something very close) and is 2x4. The 03 in the first half of the year was the most economical Dodge Cummins made I believe. It was the first common rail and didn't even have a catylitic converter. Late 03 they went to higher HP engine and of course more fuel consumption. That was the start of the diesel HP wars and economy has steadily dropped since. I wouldn't touch a new deisel with DPF and all the other emissions garbage they don't get but about half the mileage of the early 03. New ones have a bit more power but I dont need the power I have so it wouldn't do me much good. The 03-04 1/2 were just really good trucks, I was never too crazy about the models that came after that.

My dad had one of the older diesel suburbans (late 80's), it was a really good truck and got better mileage than my Dodge. I think one of the early diesel suburbans would be a fine vehicle to "refurb". Even the pre turbo models where pretty impressive with some add ons from Gale Banks, little anemic in stock trim. Dad's old sub towed a 20ft bay boat perfectly..
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My 6.2 had the problem with cracks between the intake and exhaust valve. They said these could be repaired but I bought new ones. It was a pain replacing the heads. I would have bought a 6.5 TD but still had a sour taste about those cyl heads. I saw a 4 wheel steering Suburbsn with a Duramax in it for sale on eBay but did not want another vehicle at the moment. My aluminum camper will give me more space andi will pursue a few mileage improvements.
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Sad story. The lesson is to drive slow and be safe.
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