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Old 06-29-2013, 02:38 PM   #99
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I presume going downhill would increase tow limits, if equipped with brakes?
Certainly without brakes!
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Old 06-29-2013, 03:00 PM   #100
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I presume going downhill would increase tow limits, if equipped with brakes?
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LOL, Glenn, you are correct, Sir!

... but only if the tow rating were limited by engine power or reliability...
and we know that is not always the limiting factor.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:43 PM   #101
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Test drove a Pilot, Pathfinder and 4Runner today. Wife liked the 4Runner the best, but mpg is a disadvantage. Probably drive an Escape tomorrow, if we can find a Titanium, maybe an Equinox or Traverse, and maybe an Explorer. May also test drive an Xterra before this general review is over.

Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes, which we haven't done in 40 years. So today got a dual mount for our receiver and a bike rack for two.

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:25 PM   #102
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Test drove a Pilot, Pathfinder and 4Runner today. Wife liked the 4Runner the best, but mpg is a disadvantage. Probably drive an Escape tomorrow, if we can find a Titanium, maybe an Equinox or Traverse, and maybe an Explorer. May also test drive an Xterra before this general review is over.

Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes, which we haven't done in 40 years. So today got a dual mount for our receiver and a bike rack for two.

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If you are going to test an xterra I say test a FJ Cruiser as well. I have one and LOVE it.
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Test drove a Pilot, Pathfinder and 4Runner today. Wife liked the 4Runner the best, but mpg is a disadvantage. Probably drive an Escape tomorrow, if we can find a Titanium, maybe an Equinox or Traverse, and maybe an Explorer. May also test drive an Xterra before this general review is over.

Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes, which we haven't done in 40 years. So today got a dual mount for our receiver and a bike rack for two.

More tow vehicle news soon.

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"Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes,"

Now there's the real tough choice, 'cause you gotta PEDAL!
I found my bike 24 years ago and still ride it everyday.In fact last year I found a 24YO unused one just like it, and I am prepping it as a sort of "penultimate" bicycle.....
[that is... to be parked "next to the last" bike I would ever buy!]
Shop carefully, the right bike will make you feel young again.
Hint....You won't find it at Walmart!
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We're going to a local bike shop for them. I'll post some pics later. this is the new rack...



Top bike is one I'm buying (it's in stock), bottom one is one the little woman is considering, but has to be ordered.

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Old 07-20-2013, 07:55 AM   #105
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Hi: frank_a... I'd need a rack for a "TRIKE".
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Test drove a Pilot, Pathfinder and 4Runner today. Wife liked the 4Runner the best, but mpg is a disadvantage. Probably drive an Escape tomorrow, if we can find a Titanium, maybe an Equinox or Traverse, and maybe an Explorer. May also test drive an Xterra before this general review is over.

Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes, which we haven't done in 40 years. So today got a dual mount for our receiver and a bike rack for two.

More tow vehicle news soon.

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My $0.02 on our new TV, a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. We have the second least expensive model, a Limited with V6 gas engine. It's the smoothest, quietest most luxurious vehicle we have ever had. The eight speed trans is a huge improvement over the old five speed. Great gas mileage. Just finished a 600 mile trip, mostly on the freeway going 75-80 (not towing), got 23.2 mpg. Easy to get 25 -26 mpg taking it easy. Haven't towed with it yet but it's rated to pull 6200#, has sway control built into the stability control system and has load leveling rear shocks and a tow package that includes a class IV receiver, 4 and 7 pin plugs and a socket under the dash to plug in a brake controller.

We wanted the smallest vehicle, best mileage and largest tow capacity. The Jeep, because of not having a third row seat is shorter than the explorer, pathfinder group and a lot smaller than the body-on-frame vehicles like the 4runner. Small ones like Escape are smaller and get better mileage but have much lower tow ratings.

A VW Touareg is virtually identical to the Jeep in size, qbout same mileage, tows more, but is much more expensive. Touareg can be had with a diesel for even more $$. Jeep will have a diesel this fall for lots more $$ too.

We towed a 2850# trailer with a V6 RAV4 and it did fine but we wanted a new vehicle with some headroom in the tow capacity so we could move up to a bigger trailer (maybe an old shiny one!) when the grand kids are old enough to camp with us in a few years.
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Test drove a Pilot, Pathfinder and 4Runner today. Wife liked the 4Runner the best, but mpg is a disadvantage. Probably drive an Escape tomorrow, if we can find a Titanium, maybe an Equinox or Traverse, and maybe an Explorer. May also test drive an Xterra before this general review is over.

More tow vehicle news soon.

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Hey Frank, sounds like you are having fun. I was at a towing seminar a few years ago put on by towing guru A Thomson. Standing room only by the way.

Anyway he used the Toy 4 Runner as an example of "how not to design a TV". He commented that everything about it was wrong for towing. It is however a great off road vehicle and very reliable.

One of his best rated TV's is the Buick Enclave. He talks about it here.. Suburbans, Escalades going to FWD! - Page 2 - Airstream Forums

Personally I prefer Imports (orient) (reliability is a biggy for me).

For roadability the German made cars are A1.

For versatility the Honda and Sienna Mini vans can't be beat.

If we had an egg the Honda CRV and Toy Rav4 stand out.

If I needed a pick up the Honda Ridgeline is attractive.

Re cars..... many will work, it is a tough choice.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Hi: frank_a... I'd need a rack for a "TRIKE".
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Hey, if you are serious, I built one for a friend which ramped to one side for easy loading and unloading.
She no longer uses it and would be glad to sell....
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"Tomorrow looking to buy a couple bikes,"

Shop carefully, the right bike will make you feel young again.
Hint....You won't find it at Walmart!
Got that right... bought a couple of make-do bikes there after my beloved Pothole Assault Vehicle was stolen. No comparison.
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I ride a trike too. Mine is a tadpole recumbent. It takes up a bit of space but I love it. It is geared down for hill climbing with a heel kick activated 2.5:1 overdrive for down hill. Nice payload also. I can stop and rest and not even get off it.
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Hey Frank, sounds like you are having fun. I was at a towing seminar a few years ago put on by towing guru A Thomson. Standing room only by the way.

Anyway he used the Toy 4 Runner as an example of "how not to design a TV". He commented that everything about it was wrong for towing. It is however a great off road vehicle and very reliable.

One of his best rated TV's is the Buick Enclave. He talks about it here.. Suburbans, Escalades going to FWD! - Page 2 - Airstream Forums

Personally I prefer Imports (orient) (reliability is a biggy for me).

For roadability the German made cars are A1.

For versatility the Honda and Sienna Mini vans can't be beat.

If we had an egg the Honda CRV and Toy Rav4 stand out.

If I needed a pick up the Honda Ridgeline is attractive.

Re cars..... many will work, it is a tough choice.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Compare Ford's reliability to any Oriental import.
BMW hasn't built a truly great driving car since 1989 and VW...its been a while.
I think Chrysler still has a firm hold on Mini-van versatility.
The Ridgeline is kinda "pretty", but it is hardly a pickup, it's more of a butch Pilot.
Stick to your story though(it ain't that bad)
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Compare Ford's reliability to any Oriental import.
I've put a few hundred thousand kilometres on Japanese-built Hondas, 130,000 km on one Ford car, and a round trip across the country on one Ford motorhome chassis. The motorhome is too new to mean much, but the Hondas are certainly winning over the Focus on quality and reliability... but that's just anecdotal stuff, not a meaningful measure of anything.

I would include my very reliable first car - a Toyota Tercel - but I'm not absolutely sure now that it was built in Japan. If included, it makes the Focus look like junk... although I like the way the Focus drives.
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