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Old 06-28-2013, 03:13 PM   #71
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Man that is a nice looking set up!
I agree
It's a good-looking car, and the car and trailer are complementary.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:19 PM   #72
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LOL So Happy to hear you & Brian finally agree with something I said! Who would of thought that could ever happen!
It happens - at least in my case - quite a bit... apparently more than you realise. I usually don't post just to say "me too"; rather I post to add something (in this case, the different trailer suggestion), for clarification, or to present a counterpoint. That probably looks like always disagreeing.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:32 PM   #73
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It happens - at least in my case - quite a bit... apparently more than you realise. I usually don't post just to say "me too"; rather I post to add something (in this case, the different trailer suggestion), for clarification, or to present a counterpoint. That probably looks like always disagreeing.
Brian, I read your posts with great interest. You always provide a well thought out and well researched response. Your experience and knowledge benefit all of us. Some may find you disagreeable, I find you honest.
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I too like the idea of towing with a different car.

Towing an other trailer (similar size & weight) could be an option too.
Anybody on this forum close to where we live: J4M1P6 ?
If you were closer we could hook it up to our G35. It is roughly the same size and weight as your Benz and both have IRS.

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Tomorrow, I'm going to take both car and Trillium to an RV specialist a few miles from us to hear what he has to say.
That may work well for you especially if they know what they are doing. Hands on they may pick up the problem right away. Good luck and keep us up to speed how it turns out.
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LOL So Happy to hear you & Brian finally agree with something I said! Who would of thought that could ever happen!
Very cool! Great minds think alike, lol....
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Very cool! Great minds think alike, lol....
... and fools seldom differ! (learned that second half recently, love it! )
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:19 PM   #77
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Here the latest news.

I first removed the Battery, the Propane tank, and the jockey wheel to try with a lighter tongue weight. Then hitched the trillium to the subaru. Only went 300 yards and back..... Awful! I switched vehicles, to drive as planned the Mercedes Wagon and Trillium to the RV specialist. The light tongue weight made it worse by far. I thought I as going to brake something. 20 mph max all the way (5 miles).

Verdict: Tires (as expected). The shop owner was really convincing in telling me all sort of horror stories involving P tires on trailers. We then decided to add a small stabilizer as this is a reasonably priced accessory. He ordered the brace to stop the knock between ball mount and hitch. Finally, he offered to drill a second hole in the ball mount to reduce its overhang (2 inches).
I left the trailer there and will hear from him next week. He's also going to check the suspension but with proper ST tires. A quick look let him believe that, even though not in its prime youth, the axle is likely to have a few thousand miles left to do.... we'll see. One thing at the time.

Enjoy the long week end (Canadian!)

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Old 06-29-2013, 09:54 PM   #78
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...... One thing at the time.
Absolutely, absolutey. One thing at a time. Start with the cheapest and move to the more expensive.

We're all hoping you find the solution at the cheap end of the spectrum.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:22 AM   #79
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Absolutely, absolutey. One thing at a time. Start with the cheapest and move to the more expensive.

We're all hoping you find the solution at the cheap end of the spectrum.
Donna has without question suggested the right path.

I was in the service, diagnostic, repair business for a large corporation for decades. You always do one thing at a time and test for a difference. That way you understand the effect the change has made and go on from there.

What if all the work is done and after that the problem is still there??? Yikes.

I do like the idea that he has redrilled the ball shank and shortened it. That is a good thing no matter what. The sway bar is also good.

Also, it is great that you did the test with the Subaru. It should have easily handled that small trailer without issue. At such a short distance and low speed the tires have no effect, unless of course they have a severe defect of some kind.
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So now we know that it is not either the tow vehicle or the tongue weight. Although 4 things are being done at one time, the effect of 3 of them can be tested independantly and in combination after the tires. Good thinking on by your shop. They are all relatively low cost.
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It would be nice if you could borrow a set of wheels with tires mounted and do a test run.
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Here the latest news.

I first removed the Battery, the Propane tank, and the jockey wheel to try with a lighter tongue weight. Then hitched the trillium to the subaru. Only went 300 yards and back..... Awful! I switched vehicles, to drive as planned the Mercedes Wagon and Trillium to the RV specialist. The light tongue weight made it worse by far. I thought I as going to brake something. 20 mph max all the way (5 miles).

Verdict: Tires (as expected). The shop owner was really convincing in telling me all sort of horror stories involving P tires on trailers. We then decided to add a small stabilizer as this is a reasonably priced accessory. He ordered the brace to stop the knock between ball mount and hitch. Finally, he offered to drill a second hole in the ball mount to reduce its overhang (2 inches).
I left the trailer there and will hear from him next week. He's also going to check the suspension but with proper ST tires. A quick look let him believe that, even though not in its prime youth, the axle is likely to have a few thousand miles left to do.... we'll see. One thing at the time.

Enjoy the long week end (Canadian!)

Franck
Steps in the right direction! First things first, right? Since these new tires can be used on a new axle should one prove necessary "down the road", you're losing nothing. Although it sounds like the real person that's had a chance to actually look at the axle says it's still got life in it- good news.

It may be of further comfort that at three years of age and showing some wear, you'd likely have been replacing those p-tires sometime soon anyway. At least you're not taking off new p- tires, as I had to do....and I was in such a hurry (behind schedule on a trip) that I didn't even think to keep those brand new tires for resale! ..

Word to the wise, in case you want to have the same guy look at this:
There's what looks to me like an awful lot of grease showing at the hub in your earlier pics...a bearing inspection may be in order.

Keep us posted!

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There's what looks to me like an awful lot of grease showing at the hub in your earlier pics...a bearing inspection may be in order.

Keep us posted!

Francesca

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We're going to have to call you Eagle Eye. You're sure good at spoting details in the photos that are posted

And thanks for the Happy Canada Day. Americans do a much better job of flying the flag than we Canadians do but I do my bit. As well as fly an ancient Union Jack that belonged to my British grandparents.

I haven't read back through the posts but I'm presuming at some point that the bearings were checked for slop etc.

Interesting thread, we're all hoping for a breakthrough in the trouble shooting that pinpoints the problem for sure.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:18 AM   #84
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Moving the ball closer to the bumper is surely a step toward success. In the end I would guess the axle is causing the roughness. These torsion axles don't dampen as well as hydraulic shocks which can cause a frequency mismatch with the car. I would also guess that a sacked axle will oscillate faster than a new one, and because of the shorter usable travel bottom frequently causing all those nasty jolts. The wrong tires would probably only cause more wag or sway.
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