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Old 11-15-2014, 08:54 PM   #1
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towing 13 ft versus 16 ft

Those of you that have owned both a 13 and a 16 ft fiberglass RV, which do you consider safest to tow? Is smaller safer or bigger with a little more weight safer to tow??? Because of my TV (toyota Scienna) there will be no 17 ft Casita in my future. ( yes I am still dreaming of my next casita here).

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Old 11-15-2014, 09:26 PM   #2
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Those of you that have owned both a 13 and a 16 ft fiberglass RV, which do you consider safest to tow? Is smaller safer or bigger with a little more weight safer to tow??? Because of my TV (toyota Scienna) there will be no 17 ft Casita in my future. ( yes I am still dreaming of my next casita here).

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There is no difference to the safety of either of them as long as your TV has the capacity to handle the trailer. If you are talking of backing up safety, the longer the trailer is makes it easier. The curved sides of our eggs also makes it a bit harder than a straight sided trailer.
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Depending on the year and driveline, there is a maximum towing capacity range from as low as 1000 lbs to as high as 3500 lbs. shown for the Toyota Sienna. For a better answer please look n your owners manual and tell us what it specs for your particular year and model.


That said, with proper towing capacity and set up, neither length should be "Safer" than the other. But, as a tip, you don't usually want to be pushing the maximum towing weight limits of your vehicle as that may have some effect on the stability of your tow.


Be sure to consult the listing of the Real World Trailer Weights" in the General Chat section. Manufacturers (and sellers) weight claims are notoriously low and you need to know actual, typical weights for a loaded trailer, not an empty shell.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:08 PM   #4
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Both are excellent and safe. The 13 is somewhat more stable in crosswinds and mates a little better with short wheelbase tow vehicles.
Overall, nothing tows better than a Scamp!
If I were to choose one for autocross it would be the 13.
If I were choosing one for ordinary towing I would choose the one I liked the best.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:19 AM   #5
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Overall, nothing tows better than a Scamp!

Actually, nothing tows better than a Casita. Nothing also tows better than an Escape or any other trailer for that matter (I love towing nothing!) because when your vehicle is connected to something you are hauling it is something else of which you need to be aware/concerned. But Floyd is oh so correct. Smaller profile should be more stable in cross winds, like less sail on a sailboat. But the fiberglass campers do tow well compared to other trailers I have had the distinct displeasure of towing.


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Hmmmmm... I've got ten toes and like them all, but the two big ones seem to do most of the work.....LOLOLOL
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Those of you that have owned both a 13 and a 16 ft fiberglass RV, which do you consider safest to tow? Is smaller safer or bigger with a little more weight safer to tow??? Because of my TV (toyota Scienna) there will be no 17 ft Casita in my future. ( yes I am still dreaming of my next casita here).

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We own a Sienna too. Very nice vehicle and history has proven they are a very capable tow vehicle. We tow our 23' with a mid size car but we know the Sienna would also be an excellent tow vehicle for our trailer.

All this hinges on the connection and set up. This is one of the most important things to consider when putting your combination together.
Hitch quality and configuration, set up and adjustments, brakes on the trailer (set up and adjustments) etc. So many folks seem to skim over these all important details and end up with a tow that is not comfortable nor safe.

Best of luck with your trailer selection. You have a highly respected TV with the Sienna.
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We own a Sienna too. Very nice vehicle and history has proven they are a very capable tow vehicle. We tow our 23' with a mid size car but we know the Sienna would also be an excellent tow vehicle for our trailer.

All this hinges on the connection and set up. This is one of the most important things to consider when putting your combination together.
Hitch quality and configuration, set up and adjustments, brakes on the trailer (set up and adjustments) etc. So many folks seem to skim over these all important details and end up with a tow that is not comfortable nor safe.

Best of luck with your trailer selection. You have a highly respected TV with the Sienna.
Agree with what you are saying; we used a swaybar even with the prior smaller car and smaller trailer, now use electric trailer brakes (would have been good to have even on smaller trailer), class 3 frame hitch, wd system with swaybar, proper trailer tires, the car has a full size spare so we can tow if we get a flat, transaxle cooler etc. Safety is important, too strong of a cross wind, pull over and take a rest find what you like and have fun.
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WAYNE - what kind of hitch did you install on your Sienna? I need to get one and these mini vans are low to the ground. I do not want to hit ground going in and out of gas stations, etc.
My van will tow 3500 lb so a 13 or 16 ft would work. I will be towing just a couple times a year but after rolling my SUV and 17 ft sticky in the ditch last year I am a little gun shy. My swaybar did nothing when that trailer started to fish tail. I guess I am looking for safest model to keep from fish tailing in the future. I want to be extra, extra cautious when towing anything ever again.
With my first 16 ft I was told I did not need trailer brakes. I did fine with that one, then with the second Scamp and Casita I had trailer brakes. Also had trailer brakes with the stickie too, but when the camper begins to fish tail -look out!
No more stickies for me! Back to fiberglass and I am still gun shy.
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Fish tailing is related to trailer loading, not a few feet difference in length. Weigh your trailer and tongue so you know you have sufficient tongue weight to keep the trailer stable and tracking with your tow vehicle. Hitch needs to be level or a bit low so the trailer is level or nose down. A tall stickie is more susceptible to cross winds, but the same rules of physics apply to a smaller trailer.

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It doesn't take much to mess up the weight distribution with sway resulting. A few pounds in the wrong places can do it.
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The hitch weight should be 10-15% of the trailer weight. A car with a low trailer can go to 7% or so. Any less you have fishtailing problems. So load things right & you are good. Also keep the weight as close to the axle as possible. The further to the end of the trailer the more momentum it gains.

Fishtailing occurs when the trailer pushes sideways on the hitch way behind the axle. Goosenecks & 5th wheels hitch point is in front of the axle so are immune to fishtailing.

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well, I panicked when someone somewhere honked as I was about to pass a slow driver on the freeway. I should have just kept on moving over instead of trying to slow down again and stay in the right lane. I know that no one was in my left lane. Panicking at a horn sound caused the accident. I hardly ever toot my horn but I have done it when coming up on someone that may not see me if they are hauling something. I will not be tooting my horn unless in emergency situation from here on out. I still have no idea why the horn honked and where that person was. I am thankful to be alive and so is hubby and all the dogs.
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:39 PM   #14
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Oh, I did see a 5th wheel in the ditch and truck and camper both on their side. Helecopter was called on that one. So they must fish tail or something. He tipped over on his side with 5th wheel attached.
Yep. leary here. Wishing I could afford a class "c" but I don't think fiberglass has one. I have found fiberglass do not get hail damage and leak like stickies do either.
Wanting fiberglass here again.
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