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Old 04-13-2014, 08:30 PM   #1
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towing 13' Scamp with 4-Cyl Rav4?

Hi, my wife and I are new to rv'ing and wondered if our 2011 rav4 4-cylinder would be okay towing a 13' Scamp trailer. We wanted to get a bigger trailer but finances and gasoline what they are we think the 13' would be the best way to go for our family of 4. Thanks,

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Old 04-13-2014, 08:44 PM   #2
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Not likely.
And when you are checking what your RAV 4-cylinder is rated to tow, and the tongue weight it can handle ( all minimal ), keep in mind that your overall weight allowed includes your family of four and all their personal belongings.
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:50 AM   #3
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The Rav4's are popular TV's for the egg crowd. They weigh well over 4,000lbs ready for travel. Just beware of your weights and be sure the connection set up is optimal.
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The RAV4 V6 with tow prep package is popular with the egg crowd. There is a distinction.
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I agree with Glenn. We bought the RAV4 6 cyl. Before it was discontinued from the Toyota line.

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The Rav4's are popular TV's for the egg crowd.
Funny I never meet an owner of a RAV4 4 cylinder that the OP has who have tried pulling 13' Bolers with them suggest that. They actually suggest the opposite.
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We too bought the V6.

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I agree with Glenn. We bought the RAV4 6 cyl. Before it was discontinued from the Toyota line.

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When I had my 13' Scamp, I towed it with a 4 cyl S10 pickup, 5 speed manual with NO problems.
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We too bought the V6.

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The V6 will work too. We also tow with a V6. With our 23' connected it gets our rig from 0 to 60MPH in 16 seconds. With the 4cyl it will take a bit more time. SAE expectation is 35sec or less.
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Looks like you will be just over limits based on some information, but some other information indicates that those limits can be increased to meet your situation. Don't plan on going down the interstates hammer down, or through the mountains at full speed but looks like it can be worked out.

Edmunds.com has the 2011 rav4 4cyl. rated at 1500 lbs. with no mention of hitch/tongue weight. Which as has been pointed out needs to be subtracted from the 1,070 maximum capacity.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/rav4/2...res-specs.html

Has asterisks next to those capacities that state:
When adequately equipped, which may require engine and/or other drivetrain upgrades.

There is however a thread at the Rav4 forum that goes into the upgrades (dealer and aftermarket) that can increase hitch weight from stock 170 lbs. to 350 lbs. And bump the tow capacity up over 1800 lbs. Many page thread I suggest your read and then consult with a Toyota dealer.

Toyota Rav4 2011 towing capacity - Toyota RAV4 Forums


Your going to be pushing the limits judging from this thread on trailer weights in the real world as weighed at rallies. Trailer Weights in the Real World

Look at the trailer weights, read the Rav4 group information, then you will be prepared to discuss in a knowledgeable way with the dealer. Otherwise unless someone owns your TV and trailer we all be just guessing and giving opinions. Mine is.... might be doable with some modifications.
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Jared, an excellent thread to check out before deciding on what trailer or tow to use is the one called Trailer Weights in the Real World. As many have discovered what their trailers really weigh is something very different from what the seller may tell you or what the manufactures dry weights are.
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You'll also discover that the dealer will tell you anything to close the sale.
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Hi, my wife and I are new to rv'ing and wondered if our 2011 rav4 4-cylinder would be okay towing a 13' Scamp trailer. We wanted to get a bigger trailer but finances and gasoline what they are we think the 13' would be the best way to go for our family of 4. Thanks,

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Here are my thoughts:

I think you'll be just on the border, which is pretty much where I dwell tug-wise, too. Four cylinders can be a bit gutless, but ought to do fine except perhaps on steep uphill pulls.

These would be my concerns with your RAV/Scamp 13er combo:

1. Transmission cooling:
Not a concern if yours is a manual tranny; upfit may be needed if automatic.
2. Hitch weight:
Unless yours is one of the RAVs that came with the optional 3rd. row seating, you may have some sag problems if hitch gets much over 175 pounds.
3. Trailer brakes:
13' Scamps aren't typically thus equipped, and they're a necessity with any RAV 4 if towing a trailer weighing over a thousand pounds.
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