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Old 03-29-2014, 02:17 PM   #1
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towing 13' with Eurovan?

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We have been towing our 13' burro with our Honda Odyssey. The Lease is up on our Odyssey and we're really interested in a Eurovan weekender for my kid carpooling vehicle as well as a family car. Does anyone have any info on real life towing with a eurovan? On line, some people seem to be fine with it while others say NO WAY. We only take the burro out a handful of times a year but one of those is usually a two week trip. Last year from Seattle to San Fran. The Eurovan would be so nice for single overnights when we don't want to hitch up but we really need a car that will safely pull the Burro and our camping gear when it is needed. The other car we're looking at is a Toyota Highlander but it obviously doesn't offer the same flexibility with use.

Thanks for any insight-Trina
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:01 PM   #2
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Good day Trina.

Your Honda Ody is a highly praised tow vehicle both in capabilities and reliability, especially the newer ones. Note older Ody's had some tranny issues.

In all my years of researching TV's I have read "very few" towing reports on the Eurovan. They are not that popular.

Based on my research the Eurovan or the Highlander would be a step down from the Ody as far as a tow vehicle is concerned.

Also consider the Toyota Sienna mini van. It too has a reputation of having a modest tow rating and is very reliable. Hope this helps.
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Bottom Line: What is the towing capacity of the Eurovan as stated in the owners manual for that vehicle?
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You can go online and get the towing specs for the van you are considering. With a 13foot Burro, you shouldn't have a problem if it has a reasonable towing package on it. But verify the specs yourself.
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We have been towing with a 2003 Eurovan MV for 9 years: 1 year with a 13' Burro and 8 years with a 16' UHaul VT. The VT is about 1850 pounds dryweight and we tow with an AC and other weight added. It probably is closer to 2600 lbs. when we camp. The V6 is plenty powerful and the versatility of the Eurovan is outstanding. It tows like nothing is behind it. The only places we feel the trailer is in the mountains, but any van would feel those. If you can find a Eurovan, I would say "Go for it." The biggest problem is finding one, especially one with relatively low mileage after 11 years since they were last sold in the U.S.
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Kevin, My heart just skipped a little beat. My husband is wondering if you added any after market features to improve towing-like to the transmission? Also do you have a manual or automatic. Thanks!
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We added nothing to the van other than very sturdy tires with a load rating of 104. Our first 2003 Eurovan was purchased with 26,000 miles used and made it to 186,000 miles before the tranny went. It was quoted at $6000 to rebuild, so we looked for one with fewer miles. It had about 60,000 towing miles up to this time. Our 2nd 2003 was just purchased in December and has almost 3,000 towing miles already. We were able to find one with just under 75,000 miles on it. Both have been automatics with 17 mpg city and 20 mpg highway. We get about 15 mpg towing.
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Looks like you would not want any Eurovan prior to 2001 model year, because I read that the engines were really anemic before then.

The Highlander had a 3500 lb tow rating until 2007, then from 2008 on they were good for 5000 lb. My '08 has towed for over 125,000 of its 160,000 miles.
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Old 03-30-2014, 01:39 AM   #9
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Thanks, it's so helpful to talk this out here. We looked at at 2002 and we were totally surprised by it's giddy-up. The manual indicates it would tow the Burro! Still thinking about it but at least now it seems feasible and as the kids get older we can kick them out of the Burro and into the euro (or a tent.)
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This is Kevin's wife. We like the Eurovan so much, we replaced it with one like it that is 11 years old. The new one is pictured in my avatar on our camping trip to FL. Note it is not towing a 13' camper, but a 16' camper.

On our recent trip to Germany, you see these all over as the work vehicles, towing all kinds of things. Note that they are not built with American comfort-level details like automatically-closing doors or folding seats. They ride like a pickup too. Yet, recently helping our son to move with him using his Honda Odyssey and us using our Eurovan, our vehicle could carry 3 times as many boxes as his Honda.

During camping trips, it carries all our camping items: luggage, bikes, electric scooter, food, electronics, etc. It is amazing what this camper can hold. We once carried a full-sized china cabinet home from Iowa in the other Eurovan, with me telling Kevin the whole time he was loading that it would not fit. I was wrong.

They are difficult to find though. Even the VW employees were astonished that we could find not one, but two of them. They are coveted to the extent that there exists a Facebook page asking VW to bring them back to this country.

We own a tall, tacky-looking trophy for first place, won in our category at a VW show with our previous Eurovan displayed as pulling our previously-owned 13' Burro.


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Yet, recently helping our son to move with him using his Honda Odyssey and us using our Eurovan, our vehicle could carry 3 times as many boxes as his Honda. CindyL
That kind of cargo space is impressive as well as it's 3/4 ton payload capacity.
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So I'm feeling really good about the towing, thanks for your insight. Now I'm just having to come to terms with some of the safety aspects of our Honda vs the euro. Test drove a 2002 of a family who has outgrown theirs with a third kid. I carpool and the seatbelt situation bothers me a bit, and I'll lose about thirty airbags as compared to our odyssey. This one has after market shoulder belts installed on the rear facing seets but they look a little worn from not feeding back in smoothly so I think we'll have them replaced if we buy it. They bit the bullet though and replaced the tranny two years ago so that makes us feel better about the miles. We're having it checked out by a mechanic this week. If you have any specific questions you think I should ask I'd be happy to hear.
Thanks so much!
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They bit the bullet though and replaced the tranny two years ago so that makes us feel better about the miles. We're having it checked out by a mechanic this week. If you have any specific questions you think I should ask I'd be happy to hear.
Thanks so much!
Since 1986 I have been driving and towing heavier trailers with numerous far east imports, cars and mini vans. I have averaged 200,000 to over 300,000 miles on most of them. Never had a tranny problem at all.

I confess to owning a big Mercedes sedan years ago and appreciate much of the German engineering, rock solid build quality, and nice drive.
I just had a quick review of the consumers reports "annual auto issues" from the last 10 years. Generally speaking the VW product line is showing below average when it comes to reliability. Comparing that to the Asian imports which come out at above average to much better than average.

Best of luck with whatever you end up with.
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I'm not sure what you are going to pay for the Eurovan (or willing to pay for a van). But if $30k is a possibility for you, I would say to test drive a Ram Promaster cargo van. I drove a half-ton one around the dealer lot and it rode surprisingly well. The Pentastar V6 felt really peppy also. Of course it doesn't have that unique VW appeal, but new means no repair bills for quite a while whereas used... well, one never can predict.
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