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Old 01-23-2019, 09:14 AM   #15
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My personal feeling about the Tacoma is that it's too small a vehicle for riding comfort. It's not that the Tacoma won't do a good job towing the 17 Casita, it just lacks room in the cab for what I call road comfort. When you can buy a full size 1/2 ton pickup for very close in price with all the incentives that they put on them these days, why would you go smaller. If it's to save on fuel you might checkout some of the new 2019 fuel mileage averages. Buy a tow vehicle for comfort and towing needs, not for going to the local mall and being able to park at the front door as many do. I probably would not use a WDH with the Tacoma, but you surely wouldn't need one with a 1/2 ton pickup.




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My son has owned several Dodge Dakota and his hunting buddy owned a Nissan Frontier . When riding in either one of the above mentioned “ trucks” , the word comfort never came to my mind .
The boys were in their 20’s and weren’t into towing or work , they bought their trucks because they were cute and looked like a truck .
My 1/2 ton truck rides better than my wife’s car .


PS There was an article yesterday stating that in the Chevy 1500 Silverado the 5.3 liter V8 gets better mileage than the turbocharged V4 at highway speeds and when towing .
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:52 AM   #16
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Comfort is a very personal thing. Personally I'm very comfortable in a Toyota smaller than the current Tacomas. I'm 5'10" and 150. Not a real big guy but I'm average height. A modern Tacoma is a bigger truck than I need or want, including when it comes to comfort.

But I've known plenty of 6'+ people who are not comfortable in a Tacoma. Anyway, to say a Tacoma won't work for comfort is a personal statement, not something that applies to everyone or even most people. Well...maybe most Americans these days...but not what used to be considered average.

I completely agree on the gas mileage. I've never been impressed with Toyota gas mileage for the size and power. A little V6 truck ought to be able to do better.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:11 AM   #17
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Comfort is a very personal thing. Personally I'm very comfortable in a Toyota smaller than the current Tacomas. I'm 5'10" and 150. Not a real big guy but I'm average height. A modern Tacoma is a bigger truck than I need or want, including when it comes to comfort.

But I've known plenty of 6'+ people who are not comfortable in a Tacoma. Anyway, to say a Tacoma won't work for comfort is a personal statement, not something that applies to everyone or even most people. Well...maybe most Americans these days...but not what used to be considered average.

I completely agree on the gas mileage. I've never been impressed with Toyota gas mileage for the size and power. A little V6 truck ought to be able to do better.
I am not that tall—- 6’ 2” and I don’t like riding / driving in a vehicle where the top of my head rubs on the headliner or my knees are shoved into the dash and my head is riding on my knees .
My SIL is 6’7” and he barely fits in my full size truck let alone in some sub compact pickup !
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:30 AM   #18
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I am not that tall—- 6’ 2” and I don’t like riding / driving in a vehicle where the top of my head rubs on the headliner or my knees are shoved into the dash and my head is riding on my knees .
My SIL is 6’7” and he barely fits in my full size truck let alone in some sub compact pickup !
We tried towing our Scamp 16 a couple of times with our son’s Dodge Dakota
It just felt unsafe and gave me an uneasy feeling so we abandoned the idea !!
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:34 AM   #19
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Have towed our 17' Casita SD with a 2013 Ford Escape, 2002 Dodge Ram Cummins, 2015 Audi Q5 TDI. Each had its good and bad points. We use an Anderson WDH, which hasn't been a big problem, and helps to keep the trailer level. The biggest thing we learned was that having a full 25 gallon fresh water tank in the rear definitely affects sway...at least for us. It is no fun to see your trailer swinging back and forth in your rear view mirror! With the anti-sway, things have been pretty rock solid. We now tow mostly with the Audi. Has plenty of power, 20mpg, and comfort. Plus it is easier driving to places once we get to the campsite. Your Tacoma should have no problems, but that is the opinion of a not so hardened traveler. I'm sure there are many more expert recommendations here for you. Happy traveling!
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:43 PM   #20
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I have been towing a 17 ft SD Casita with a 2006 Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 for 8 yrs, with just a sway bar. Works great even in winds to 40-50 mph in storms. I do have much upgraded shocks, rancho 9 position adj 2" pistons. Much larger shocks than oe or upgrade oe. I have heard of trailer frame cracks developing when using WDH, not sure if true but something to check into.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:56 PM   #21
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I think a WDH is overkill

I've towed our 2006 Casita SD over 60K miles with a Honda Pilot and a GMC Acadia. The tongue weight is 350# and the Casita weighs 3500# and I've never felt the for a WDH. As I've gotten older, wrangling a 50+# WDH into the receiver is something I have to avoid.

I do try to avoid heavy weight in the TV and I do use a sway bar, most of the time, but I'm not sure it does much. The Casita pretty much follows along wherever I go, without much hassle. :-)

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Old 01-30-2019, 04:02 PM   #22
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I pull a 17' SD with a 4.0L Ford Ranger with factory off-road package (higher suspension, stiffer shocks, added leaf springs, etc.) I've pulled the Casita w/o a WDH and with a Equalizer-brand WDH (includes sway control). I definitely feel the hassle of messing with a 100 lb WDH is worth the effort in my case. I thought maybe new shocks would help, so I installed a set of KYB monomax shocks and it made little difference. The main problem with the Ranger is porpoising when that 400 lbs on the hitch ball causes the truck to rock a bit in situations when driving over rough or irregular roads. The suspension is stiff enough that the 400 lbs tongue weight basically doesn't lift the body off the front axle at all, so WDH is marginal for that use, but it definitely stops the porpoising and is there to provide sway control in an emergency. Another plus with my WDH is that it moves the trailer back just far enough that I can drop the tailgate with the trailer hooked up.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:09 PM   #23
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We towed our Casita 17SD all over the Western U.S. with our 2010 Tacoma Prerunner. It was up to the task. We now tow with our 2018 Honda Ridgeline and like it even better as a tow vehicle. We use a WDH and a sway bar with both vehicles. The sway bar was recommended by the factory. We added the WDH later because of porpoising on sectioned pavement and bottoming out going in and out of parking lots. From our experience, I believe you will like the WDH. It dramatically reduces porpoising on both vehicles, but on the Ridgeline we cannot even tell the Casita is back there except when we look in the rear view mirror. The nice thing about a WDH is it doesn't affect your ride when it isn't being used like air bags and such. It only takes an additional few minutes to hook or unhook and it adds stability to your whole rig. But try it without first.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:29 AM   #24
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I tow my 17' SD with my 2017 TRDOR 4runner.
I run a sway control bar because it came with the Casita and it really feels like the belt to my suspenders. Full weight distribution would be total overkill, imho.

I also have 5100's installed on all 4 corners of the truck. I never towed without them, but I'm sure its an improvement over the mushy front stock suspension.

Last, I would think that if you balanced your payload, you should have no problem with a basic ball hitch.

Just make sure you calibrate your trailer brake controller and know how to operate it if you ever had to stop your rig quickly.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:36 AM   #25
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There seems to be no consensus on whether or not to use a WDH or sway bar (or both) when towing with a Toyota Tacoma truck. We have a newly acquired 2014 Casita Independence Deluxe which we towed back from TX behind our truck camper equipped Chevy 2500HD with no problems at all.

However, the PLAN is to use our 2019 Tacoma 6cyl./6speed auto, Access Cab with tow package to haul the Casita around the country.

Being from the "keep it simple" school, we would like to forgo the WDH and sway bar stuff if possible; it's just more hardware to mess with as far as we are concerned, especially if it's not really needed. Some say if you properly balance the trailer you'll be OK while others say not using these hitch attachments is to risk at least certain death.

We'd appreciate hearing about your experiences (good and bad) towing 17" Casitas (or similar outfits) with late model Toyotas; with and without WDH and sway bars.

Thanks in advance for your input.
I tow my 2005 17 ft Casita spirit with a 2007. Ford Explorer SportTrac. It has 4 doors, small pick up bed, and a spirited 6 cylinder engine. I use a simple friction sway bar that was installed by Casita. I can tell the difference if it is not installed. I have towed this through very tight turn winding mountain passes and steep grades with no problem. I like the narrow width of my truck vs the full size truck models.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:12 AM   #26
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We tow our 17' Casita SD with an '09 Ridgeline.

In the past with large stick built trailers and towing with full size V8 trucks, we found WDH and Sway bar necessary.

Sway bar and WDH came with our used Casita, but have never been used. Not necessary for this setup.

My Ridgeline owners manual recommends against using a WDH AS IT MAY AFFECT HANDLING IN A NEGATIVE WAY . AS WELL AS POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE , IF NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY.

That is fine with me to not have to deal with the 70+# of extra weight.

Other rigs may NEED those items. But we have not in the 8 years of using this set up.

Be very careful to not use a sway bar as a bandaid. Generally speaking if a Casita sways , just because it is being towed, There is another problem. Poor load balance, trailer not level to tug, under inflated tires, come to mind.

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Old 02-02-2019, 08:19 AM   #27
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We tow our 17' Casita SD with an '09 Ridgeline.

In the past with large stick built trailers and towing with full size V8 trucks, we found WDH and Sway bar necessary.

Sway bar and WDH came with our used Casita, but have never been used. Not necessary for this setup.

My Ridgeline owners manual recommends against using a WDH AS IT MAY AFFECT HANDLING IN A NEGATIVE WAY . AS WELL AS POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE , IF NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY.

That is fine with me to not have to deal with the 70+# of extra weight.

Other rigs may NEED those items. But we have not in the 8 years of using this set up.

Be very careful to not use a sway bar as a bandaid. Generally speaking if a Casita sways , just because it is being towed, There is another problem. Poor load balance, trailer not level to tug, under inflated tires, come to mind.

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Old 02-02-2019, 09:18 AM   #28
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I agree with trying it first without. Seems Casitas tow differently, but my Bigfoot has never needed anything. It tows straight and stable. I have a friction anti-sway bar but only put it on if I’m towing in the desert in the spring, or some other really windy place.
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