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Old 08-12-2007, 06:54 PM   #15
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Some parts of Scamp trailers use a common harness and I believe that applies to the front part -- My 91S13 was originally ordered with no battery, but all the wiring, including the in-line fuse holder, was taped inside the harness. The only thing that was missing was the blue brake power lead (It took me a long time to fish a blue wire inside that sheath when I installed brakes!!!).
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:45 PM   #16
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...In B.C. now for example it is illegal to tow with a bumper hitch, even the afore mentioned add on bolted to under the bumper kind...you must have a properly installed receiver type hitch. You also cannot haul a (slide in) camper WITHOUT a one ton truck. Those are the rules as I was told them by an RCMP officer at a local R/V show this spring...
I believe that the relevant regulation would be B.C. Reg. 26/58, Motor Vehicle Act Regulations
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7.07 (1) No person shall drive or operate on a highway a motor vehicle and trailer unless
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( b ) the device which couples the trailer to the motor vehicle is firmly attached to a structurally adequate integral part of the frame of each vehicle, or, where the towed vehicle is of a gross vehicle weight of less than 900 kg, to a structurally adequate part of the towing vehicle and to an integral part of the frame of the towed vehicle,
While I appreciate the challenges facing the cop on the street, and have great respect for the people doing this job, I don't expect them to know all of the regulations, nor to have the technical expertise to interpret them. It is particularly difficult when regulations are outdated or poorly written (such as in this case, the "frame" reference which will be a problem for unibody vehicles, and the lack of guidance for the assessment of "structurally adequate").

I would argue that a receiver box which is designed for towing, bolted to a bumper which rated by the manufacturer for towing, with both within their rated limits, clearly meets the structural adequacy requirement.

The slide-in camper thing would be ridiculous if literally interpreted - I'm sure that the officer is just stating that the load must be within the vehicle's rated capacity, and expressing that as a blanket need for a "one-ton". For many campers, that would be appropriate.

In any case, the possibility that someone wanting to write a ticket might argue about the hitch structure is another reason for installing a proper frame-mounted receiver on the F-350, and an argument for not settling for the add-on receiver box.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:04 PM   #17
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I think the T-One brand name belongs to Draw-Tite, so under this name the connectors would come from Draw-Tite (who lists part 118316 for a 1990 F-350); other Cequent divisions such as Reese have the same part (118316 at Reese).

The same type of product from other manufacturers, such as Hoppy, will have different names, but they're often generically called "T-connectors".

I agree that a plug-in harness like this is definitely the way to go.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:05 AM   #18
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My husband spoke to U-Haul at length about the trailer and truck hitch and chose to let them solve the hitch/wiring situation. He is taking the truck in to them in a couple of hours. Que sera, sera... but, if all goes well, we'll be able to pick up the trailer next week.

Now, I just have to figure out how to manouver it out of those narrow streets in suburban Boston Thank goodness it is just a mile from the highway!

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Profile updated, and I cant wait to take pictures. My son and I are going to fix it up nice! :smile
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:44 PM   #19
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I would strongly suspect that the 'bumper hitch' stuf came from the old days where a ball was just bolted to an automotive bumper with a couple of drilled holes. The step bumper on my Dodge and the factory bumper on my Ranger are both beefy, connected directly to the frame with serious metal and rated for their towing capacity. I wouldn't be afraid to defend them.

As regards the truck camper, just like in travel trailers, there are TTs and there are other TTs; for example, at least two companies in Calif make aluminum-framed pop-up truck campers that are designed to go on Rangers, Dakotas, Mazdas, etc. with dry weights of 600-700#. Clearly no need for a one-ton full-sized pickup to carry one.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:05 AM   #20
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The wiring, as it protrudes from the opening in the trailor, looks to be original and in very good shape. It may be naive, but I am making the assumption that all of the original wires are still there. I didn't want to take it apart today, just in case...
Congratulations on the new (to you) trailer.

As for most of your wiring concerns there is a lot of information in the electrical section Document Center. You will find info on the 7Pin wiring as well as Scamp wiring diagrams.
You can find more info on other areas using the links provided on the bottom left side of your screen under Resources.

If you can wangle that big F350 around the narrow streets you are not going to find it that much more difficult to pull the Scamp behind it. Most campgrounds have relatively narrow roads.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:16 AM   #21
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I believe that the relevant regulation would be B.C. Reg. 26/58, Motor Vehicle Act Regulations

"or, where the towed vehicle is of a gross vehicle weight of less than 900 kg"
900 kg = 1980 Lbs
Many FG trailers fall under this, but I agree with the F350 a "real" hitch receiver would be beneficial.
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