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Old 12-25-2006, 12:21 AM   #15
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Well.... almost all cars do.

One of Dad's many VW Squarebacks with an auto did not.

That's only because it's hard to find that radiator on a older VW.
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:35 AM   #16
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Christi, I just dug out my old Burro advertising for the 1998 models. The advertised dry weight on the 17' was 1500 lbs with a tongue weight of 125 lbs without options.
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The 99 14' Burro I just sold had an empty tongue weight of 170 lbs with a group 24 battery and a standard propane tank on the tongue. I think that the dry weights of the Burros are misleading. I will bet that my 14' weighed at least 1500 lbs. My fully loaded 13' Scamp and a 600 pound ATV in the back of my truck pulls much easier than my almost empty Burro. I realize the aerodynamics of the Burro is equivilant to that of a brick but I noticed the biggest differance on long uphill pulls.
Weigh your Burro Christi.
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:25 AM   #17
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Those little Bajas sure are cute! I considered one when I recently was looking to purchase.

The color schemes alone make them desirable! That has nothing to do with towing or capability, but hey... they are different!
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:21 AM   #18
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We tow a 16 ft. Scamp with our 2004 Outback. It has an automatic transmission and, as recommended in the manual, we usually use 3rd gear instead of Drive, especially in hilly country. We also periodically check loaded weights and tongue weight to make sure we're within the recommended ranges. I have the transmission fluid checked regularly and so far haven't had any problems. The owner's manual does have a warning regarding towing up long inclines in very hot weather, but we live in the east and don't run into those conditions. We are very happy with our setup and are glad that we don't have to have a separate vehicle for towing.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:51 PM   #19
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Hi, are you still towing your '16 with your Outback? We are considering a loaded '13 to tow with our 4 cylinder '09 Outback. Does your '16 have a shower and/or A/C?

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Old 09-28-2011, 09:00 PM   #20
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Hi, are you still towing your '16 with your Outback? We are considering a loaded '13 to tow with our 4 cylinder '09 Outback. Does your '16 have a shower and/or A/C?

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Not the Same but pretty much equivalent... Tens of thousands of miles towing with a 4CYL Ford Escape 5spd manual. Works well with our loaded 13 scamp deluxe front bath....
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:12 PM   #21
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We tow a 16 ft. Scamp with our 2004 Outback. It has an automatic transmission and, as recommended in the manual, we usually use 3rd gear instead of Drive, especially in hilly country. We also periodically check loaded weights and tongue weight to make sure we're within the recommended ranges. I have the transmission fluid checked regularly and so far haven't had any problems. The owner's manual does have a warning regarding towing up long inclines in very hot weather, but we live in the east and don't run into those conditions. We are very happy with our setup and are glad that we don't have to have a separate vehicle for towing.
When you say that you have the trans fluid "checked," are you sending samples to a lab, like Blackstone? Or are you just checking the fluid level?
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:56 PM   #22
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So, I bought my Subaru Outback about a month ago. It is a 4-cylinder 2.5i Premium (170hp/170tq). I towed the Scamp for the first time today. Just about 60 miles. No mountains, but some small hills. It towed beautifully! I towed it before, as many of you know, with a 2009 Scion xD. I thought it towed pretty well with the xD, but it is a night and day difference! The CVT transmission is great -- you can set the cruise control and there is no shifting... the RPMs just go up if more power is needed, then go down when it isn't. The most it ever went up to was about 3,000 RPMs at 60 MPH. On flat ground, it went down to 1,600 RPMs or so. No jerky shifting or gear "hunting" like traditional automatics. Really smooth.

I can't wait to take it on a real camping trip in two weeks!
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The 2006 Baja brochure doesn't list an optional package, or a restriction on towing capacity based on transmission type or equipment, so it seems like Subaru has not assessed transmission cooling as the limiting factor for towing.
When my Outback was new back in 07 I asked the Subaru servce manager (who also tows with his Outback) about needing a transmission cooler and was told at the time that Subaru does not make/offer them as an option. Was also advised that adding an after market one while the car was still under warrenty was not a good idea in the event that I did have a transmission problem - as they might point fingers at it. Have towed now for 5 years thousands of miles without one and have had no issues. Its an automatic but I do switch over the manual sport mode on hills etc. and I do have the transmission fluid changed.
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So, I bought my Subaru Outback about a month ago. It is a 4-cylinder 2.5i Premium (170hp/170tq). I towed the Scamp for the first time today. Just about 60 miles. No mountains, but some small hills. It towed beautifully! I towed it before, as many of you know, with a 2009 Scion xD. I thought it towed pretty well with the xD, but it is a night and day difference! The CVT transmission is great -- you can set the cruise control and there is no shifting... the RPMs just go up if more power is needed, then go down when it isn't. The most it ever went up to was about 3,000 RPMs at 60 MPH. On flat ground, it went down to 1,600 RPMs or so. No jerky shifting or gear "hunting" like traditional automatics. Really smooth.

I can't wait to take it on a real camping trip in two weeks!
Jesse, glad to hear you are loving your Subaru! They are hard not to love.
I actually like the way mine tows as well & most of the time its easy to forget I'm towing. But if you come out West and hit some of our hills hummmm perhaps I should say MOUNTAINS I think you will find that it will start to hunt. But then thats when you will also learn to love the manual sport option!
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Jesse, glad to hear you are loving your Subaru! They are hard not to love.
I actually like the way mine tows as well & most of the time its easy to forget I'm towing. But if you come out West and hit some of our hills hummmm perhaps I should say MOUNTAINS I think you will find that it will start to hunt. But then thats when you will also learn to love the manual sport option!
Carol, what I mean about not hunting for the right gear is that my Outback doesn't have gears! It has the CVT transmission. Yes, it revs higher or lower, but there is no back and forth jolt between two gears when it can't decide which to be in. It just changes the RPMs vey smoothly to deliver the right amount of power. There are no "preset" gears.
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So, I bought my Subaru Outback about a month ago. It is a 4-cylinder 2.5i Premium (170hp/170tq). I towed the Scamp for the first time today. Just about 60 miles. No mountains, but some small hills. It towed beautifully! I towed it before, as many of you know, with a 2009 Scion xD. I thought it towed pretty well with the xD, but it is a night and day difference! The CVT transmission is great -- you can set the cruise control and there is no shifting... the RPMs just go up if more power is needed, then go down when it isn't. The most it ever went up to was about 3,000 RPMs at 60 MPH. On flat ground, it went down to 1,600 RPMs or so. No jerky shifting or gear "hunting" like traditional automatics. Really smooth.

I can't wait to take it on a real camping trip in two weeks!
"A night and day difference"... in terms of drivetrain power only, or was there a strong difference in some other ways too (like handling, etc)?

You need to stop making me want a Subaru so much!
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Mike I was going to say just go and buy one and get it over with! :-))) but I see in your pofile what you are towing. Not sure on what the tongue weight is on yours but they tend to run a little heaver than the Scamps so it might be a problem with keeping it down to the Subaru limit - sadly the use of an equalizer hitch is a no go with the Outback.
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"A night and day difference"... in terms of drivetrain power only, or was there a strong difference in some other ways too (like handling, etc)?

You need to stop making me want a Subaru so much!
It certainly had more power. The power delivery was very smooth, thanks to the CVT. The longer wheel add (than the previous car) surely helped take out some of the bumps, too. The AWD system helped on my gravel driveway. The hill holder feature works very well, too.
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