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Old 08-22-2012, 11:37 PM   #57
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Learning to back a trailer by reading written instructions is like learning to ride a bicycle by reading written instructions.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:10 AM   #58
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I guess this is as good a place to put this.

Prior to the purchase of (to be named) Bigfoot. I had one experience of backing up small U-haul trailer. It was memorable and not in a good way. I managed to dent my brand new trucks bumper when it would not go straight no matter how I turned the wheel. Seriously, how does a trailer to continue to jackknife when you turn the wheel either way? This makes no sense to my logical, accountant trained mind. (I'm no rocket surgeon). So it is not without some thought of how do you own a trailer without never backing it up crossed my mind.

So when picking up our trailer a few nights ago, Mike the PO took us out for a lttle test drive and then to a school to practice backing up. I felt that same chill break out when I tried to do so and the damn thing kept turning. It was night and we did not proceed too long, we both knew it would come but daytime would be better and jsts some simple practice.

A few days later (this morning in fact), I had chance to practice. Beleive it or not within about 10 minutes I had it backing up straight! Raising one's nessecity level will do that. What I noticed was the BF has these small fenders over the wheels and when the rig is straight you WILL NOT SEE THEM! Practicing in daylight does help! So little nudges to the wheel to the side that showed up in the side view mirror corrected things easily. Still no pro but hey this is not a bad start. Then moved to 90 degree parking and well let's just say we are still learning, but I can visualize the day in the not see far future where I will be backing up into a 7 foot wide space, texting and balancing a cup of coffee with my free hand.

BTW, the BF is being stored a a nice place where they store them in racks. You drop it off, they move it! Perfect? Not really. it costs way more than I want to pay, but the normal spaces are filled right now and I need to learn how to back up better. So I have some incentive to get this right soon, when my number is called at the regular folks lot.

So yes there is a question to be posed for those who were waiting for the point. It is this.

Imagine a clock, the hour hand is the truck, the minute hand is the trailer. The clock reads 10 (or 5) to 7 (6:50 or so). Can I make it be 6:00, ya know straight by turning the wheel while backing up and NOT going forward? Is this one of thoe brain teaser questions?
It does sound like you should be able to do and I suppose I just need an answer like yes or no to determine my next course of action. You can post the method if you want and I may understand it, but until I plop my butt in the seat and do it 15-20 times (again), it will remain an illusion.

Just in case it's not clear, no matter which way I turned the wheel, time flew and it was already quarter to eight!



Gary/Sonja

Gary wrote this BTW.
^5 thats the ticket,, practice and observe. each trailer has a spot on it thats sort of like a guide,,, you find what works and practice and it eventually comes together at least enough so you can park.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:13 AM   #59
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hmmm just gave me a great idea for a gathering event,,,, a trailer rodeo, have contests, events and stuff. even classes on different aspects.

set up, hook up, forward manuvers, backing manuvers,safety inspections.

could be a fun , interesting, and educational thing to do ,maybe the first day of an outing .
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:52 AM   #60
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set up, hook up, forward manuvers, backing manuvers,safety inspections.
could be a fun , interesting, and educational thing to do ,maybe the first day of an outing .
Or just as they arrive and before they fully unhitch and set up all their stuff.... otherwise you may not get to many takers
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:19 AM   #61
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hmmm just gave me a great idea for a gathering event,,,, a trailer rodeo, have contests, events and stuff. even classes on different aspects.

set up, hook up, forward manuvers, backing manuvers,safety inspections.

could be a fun , interesting, and educational thing to do ,maybe the first day of an outing .
I think this could lead to all kinds of fun contests like:
  • Find the trailer's water leak
  • Figure out why the trailer lights don't work
  • Change the trailer tire without a jack, in the gravel
  • Start a campfire with wet wood
  • Level the trailer with a 1 foot ground slope
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:10 PM   #62
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I'm not gonna do that. It would embarrass the heck out of me.
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:14 PM   #63
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An old method to backing up a trailer..... Take hold of the steering wheel at the bottom, now which way you want to go you turn the wheerl that way, want the trailer to go to the right you turn the s/wheel to the right (counter clock wise). Also takes a bit of practise, seems we all want to turn in the opposte directions. Also we have a tendescy to oversteer.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:21 PM   #64
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I think this could lead to all kinds of fun contests like:
  • Find the trailer's water leak
  • Figure out why the trailer lights don't work
  • Change the trailer tire without a jack, in the gravel
  • Start a campfire with wet wood
  • Level the trailer with a 1 foot ground slope
LOL most trailer meets I attend that already is happening...just no prize at the end!
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:53 PM   #65
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I think this could lead to all kinds of fun contests like:
  • Find the trailer's water leak
  • Figure out why the trailer lights don't work
  • Change the trailer tire without a jack, in the gravel
  • Start a campfire with wet wood
  • Level the trailer with a 1 foot ground slope
camping olympics!
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:04 PM   #66
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I think this could lead to all kinds of fun contests like:
  • Level the trailer with a 1 foot ground slope
Great idea for the next Scrambled Egg meet. On the way in to the parking area have some cones that require some backing up type manuvers etc.

Oh, on the leveling the trailer bit, can I get a pass. Already been there, done that this month at Deception Pass State Park. This site is listed as a 40' site. Can you imagine anything longer than a 13' trailer. My trailer tongue was on the ground and I was at the limit of jacks. I think a longer trailer would have had to dig into the hillside. Good reason to look at a site before you commit to it.

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Old 08-28-2012, 08:04 PM   #67
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In about 1982 (or so) I had a neighbour ("neighbor" in US of A) who taught a course in heavy-hauling, commercial truck operators etc.

They were having a Road-e-o and he conned me into going out to watch. While there, I got conned into signing up as a competitor.

Various classes for school buses, long distance (Greyhound-type) buses, single unit trucks, semi-trailers, and combinations (more than one trailer)

I figured "heck if they can , I can should be able to figure it out, too!"

Well, I actually came second against a bunch of pros in a couple of classes, in the top 10 in another and got laughed at in one, but I refuse to talk about my "skills" at backing a combination around a turn and then into a loading dock!
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:10 PM   #68
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So we've taken it out a few times and now have a storage spot where I have to back it into a 45 degree space. Not yet completely smooth but it ends up close to where I want it with a few back and forths. So yeah practicing pays off and it gets better with time. Still amazed at some of these huge rigs parked in some tight spaces.
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