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Old 12-09-2015, 09:15 PM   #15
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Thanks Everyone for your input.
We went to 4 RV places and the Chrysler dealership and read online info before we bought the camper. A couple of them said that is a low vehicle to tow with but we got the riser hitch. I am not a computer person so I didn't think to ask ordinary people until now. We are learning all the time. I was relieved to see there are minivan TVs.
It doesn't have a tow package but I appreciate the advise about the transmission cooler. The dealer told us this model van has a trans cooler tied in with the air conditioning system on it but it may not be enough. I think it is very importantnto have a good one installed especially after reading one of the posts about tranny problems.
We brought the Scamp home with our friend's pick-up. As soon as we get all this equipment installed I am positive my two vehicles shall be as one on the road!!!! Can't wait!
No need for an extra Tranny Cooler as long as you are not in a hot climate, and pay attention to downshifting on long uphill pulls. If you keep it in DRIVE and are pulling hard, the torque converter slips more and makes heat. Dropping in to a lower gear is easier on the engine and Transmission. Just watch the engine temp gauge.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:43 PM   #16
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Unless you are driving my Toyota RAV4.
The manual says not to tow in overdrive / use 4 and it says not to tow hard uphill for very long in a lower gear ( 3 or 2 ).
I do have a tranny cooler and BC isn't known as a hot climate, but I once dropped down into 3 on a long climb and transmission warning light came on.

What I am saying is, read the manual for your specific vehicle.
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:27 AM   #17
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Unless a tranny cooler was required or recommended by the vehicle manufacturer, I would first do my darnest to install a transmission fluid temp gauge.

An OEM one would be best, but I just use a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter and a APP on my smartphone to monitor tranny temp and other data.For the Toyota you have to custom program the equation that is used to get the temp, and I cannot promise it is accurate. But I have monitored it enough to know the number is ballpark at least, and it does track the expected temps very close as they go up and down.

What I found was that towing my pop-up on level highways , the tranny temp sometimes stayed cooler in overdrive. But with the Scamp 16, no matter the road, the temp was higher in overdrive. And of course I have plenty of warning if it starts to creep up higher than I like. If you need a tranny cooler then get one, but the gauge is very helpful in any case.

(And by the way, there was very little difference in fuel economy while towing regardless of gearing, but one would always want to be in overdrive for daily driving with my vehicle)
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Old 12-10-2015, 08:51 AM   #18
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Annie and Jack,
Glad you got your new Scamp home. It's great to find a really nice trailer.

I can't help you much with your consideration for the tow vehicle, just hoping you get that sorted out quickly so you can start fully enjoying it.

Best of Luck, perhaps we'll meet on the road some time.

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Old 12-10-2015, 09:03 AM   #19
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Unless a tranny cooler was required or recommended by the vehicle manufacturer, I would first do my darnest to install a transmission fluid temp gauge.

An OEM one would be best, but I just use a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter and a APP on my smartphone to monitor tranny temp and other data.For the Toyota you have to custom program the equation that is used to get the temp, and I cannot promise it is accurate. But I have monitored it enough to know the number is ballpark at least, and it does track the expected temps very close as they go up and down...
Hope I'm not taking this thread too far sideways, but this post interested me a lot. I would love to be able to monitor transmission temperature. Does anyone else have experience with a system like Gordon's, or other alternatives? Effectiveness? Cost? If it matters, I tow with a 2011 Honda Pilot.
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:24 AM   #20
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Hope I'm not taking this thread too far sideways, but this post interested me a lot. I would love to be able to monitor transmission temperature. Does anyone else have experience with a system like Gordon's, or other alternatives? Effectiveness? Cost? If it matters, I tow with a 2011 Honda Pilot.
I share your hope since off topic posts are a pet peeve of mine. Moderators, please me move if needed.

Jon, Start here:
Torque OBD2 Wiki

Toyota is so secretive that they cannot get the official sensor info but I found the setup info online. I think in this forum:
Forums €” Torque
I don't know about Honda.

The APP is <$5 for the pro version and there is a free version you can use to see if it works with your adapter.

I got a Chinese clone adapter on ebay and do not recall the price but it might have been around $10. HOWEVER note that problems with cheap adapters is the primary problem people have with this APP. From the APP description:
There are currently a lot of clone adapters circulating that are broken/not working on the CANBUS protocol - if your vehicle isn't working, check the adapter if it's a clone(it may work on older vehicles though)


I think the "official" adapters start around $75 and quickly go up from there.

It works very well for me. There was one time (and one time only) when the dash on my Highlander lit up like a Christmas tree... I started to try and find the nearest dealer as I was 500 miles from home. But when I took the adapter out and restarted the car, all was well and I never had that happen again. It is supposed to only read data in the monitoring mode, but it does have the capability to clear codes also (subject to the regular limitations with hidden codes, etc.) so who knows. YMMV!!!
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:06 AM   #21
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I have a ScanGauge 2 in my RAV4. Had to go to the RAV4 forum to find the settings for transmission temperature, but it has been handy. I do wonder what temperature the RAV4's transmission overheat light is set for - I hit 266F hauling the Escape up to the top of Cedar Breaks National Monument (not a good idea) and the overheat light never came on...
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:21 AM   #22
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Last week we finally got to bring home our new 2013 16 ft. Scamp
Now we have big decisions to make with the towing vehicle.
We own a 2012 Dodge Grand Caravan, 6 cyl.
Dealer says it will pull it.
Does anyone here pull with a minivan? I haven't found anyone yet. We really want to keep this van but we also don't want to wreck it.
Thanks for all your input on all the subjects.
I have learned so much!
Annie and Jack in Michigan
You can download the owner manuel from this site :

https://carmanuals2.com/get/dodge-gr...s-manual-31065
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Old 12-10-2015, 12:23 PM   #23
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Hope I'm not taking this thread too far sideways, but this post interested me a lot. I would love to be able to monitor transmission temperature. Does anyone else have experience with a system like Gordon's, or other alternatives? Effectiveness? Cost? If it matters, I tow with a 2011 Honda Pilot.
My rear drive truck has a single rail shifter which allows me to check the transmission temperature by simply touching the lever just below the shift knob.
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:39 PM   #24
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Hope I'm not taking this thread too far sideways, but this post interested me a lot. I would love to be able to monitor transmission temperature. Does anyone else have experience with a system like Gordon's, or other alternatives? Effectiveness? Cost? If it matters, I tow with a 2011 Honda Pilot.

Jon I have a 2009 Honda Odyssey. I once wanted some type of temperature gauge for my transmission but I found there were no easy options for my van. The only option was placing a sensor in the transmission line or in the transmission drain plug. Things change but for my 2009 there is no plug and play options.

Quick edit: Just did a quick search and found this that might work for Honda Products.


http://ultra-gauge.com/blue.htm



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Jon I have a 2009 Honda Odyssey. I once wanted some type of temperature gauge for my transmission but I found there were no easy options for my van. The only option was placing a sensor in the transmission line or in the transmission drain plug. Things change but for my 2009 there is no plug and play options.

Quick edit: Just did a quick search and found this that might work for Honda Products.


UltraGauge OBDII Scan tool & Information Center



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When you purchase a ScanGauge or UltraGauge, they come with a list of "codes" you enter for monitoring different sensors for each vehicle or engine. If the code for the sensor you want isn't listed (such as the one for transmission temperature for my RAV4 V6) you can sometimes find them with an internet search. While some older transmissions do not have a temperature sensor, most new ones do; finding the parameters you need to set in the gauge needed to access it can be difficult.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:13 AM   #26
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Sounds like my best bet, then, is to take the question to the Pilot owner's forum. As I understand it, there are two options: a traditional stand-alone gauge with its own sensor, or a device that plugs into the OBD port. I'm not really interested in the former (should I be?), so I'll ask about the latter.

Thanks for the responses.
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:02 AM   #27
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The Pilot forum would be your best bet. Let us know what you find out.


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Old 12-11-2015, 11:50 AM   #28
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Just found this gauge calculator for ultra blue.

http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragaug...augelookup.php





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