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Old 09-10-2012, 07:24 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input. I agree with Byron, Norm and Ginny. Slow down and enjoy. It's a balance but I'm definitely on the page of being safe. While going too fast creates the opportunity for an accident, so does going too slow relative to the rest of traffic. I don't like to be more than about 10 MPH less than traffic, unless I'm on a steep hill with a truck lane.

Hey, that reminds me. How well do those ScanGages work? I'd love to know what my transmission temp is without having to install a gauge in one of the lines.
Interesting phenomenon in at my observation. Driving too slow when towing doesn't seem to be much of a problem. It appears to be much less of a problem when than when not towing. On freeways it's easy enough for traffic to go around you. On 2 lane roads I try to pull over and let traffic go by or slow down in passing areas to make it easier for traffic to pass. Most drivers don't get as impatient with travel trailer being towed as they do with other slow downs. I often get a friendly wave and a smile when I make a move to let them pass.
I've noticed this in most of the western states.

Also of note that in some states the towing speed is much lower than the non-towing speed. Example CA, 70 mph for passenger cars and 55 mph towing. Oregon the 65 mph, 55 mph. Washington 70 mph, 60 mph.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:25 PM   #16
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Hey, that reminds me. How well do those ScanGages work? I'd love to know what my transmission temp is without having to install a gauge in one of the lines.
I have a Scan Gage on my Escape hybrid and I love it. It tells you what all the sensors are actually reading, even things like voltage to the battery. It will also find fault codes and allow you to reset. You can move it car to car, so for instance I can check out a code on my wife's car fix it, then move it back to my Escape.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:31 AM   #17
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Well Im hopeing wih whatever Scamp I end up with, 13 or 16 I will do a little better on fuel mileage then I did with my lil gypsy vardo I built (more pics on my profile) the overhung roof and flat face killed my gas mileage. 19/23 normally on my v6 Rav4 to like 13mpg towing around 60mph.... one tank with my ac on and doin 70 I averaged 10mpg...bleh(also learned on that trip why when its a 100' outside to not drive so fast.... melted a tire)

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:19 AM   #18
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Back in the early seventies, the streets were crawling with cars capable of 150MPH and 10 second 1/4mile times,according to the owners.
Then came the gas crunch and those same cars were suddenly capable of 25MPG! OH MY!

Now I know that generalities are always false, but generally...

Here's what I have observed concerning towing a 13 Scamp.
Without the trailer my interstate speed is just under the flow of traffic (about 75MPH).
With the trailer, my speed is just under 60MPH.
The MPH difference "generally" absorbs most of the MPG difference.

"Generally" I think you should expect to get at least your "in town" non-towing mileage with a 60MPH highway towing speed and light accelleration.(13 Scamp).
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:59 PM   #19
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Well lets start by saying I live in Canada; that said will convert 4 L per Gal instead of 4.5 L per Gal and km to miles hope I am close for our cousins in the south. At 4.5 L the car gets 49 mpg but in US gal 4 L it is only 40.5

We never go over 92 kpm or 57 mph and tow as light as possible

The normal range is 80 to 92 kpm or 50 to 57 on the highway

Mileage is 7.5 L per 100 km to 8.2 L per 100 Km or about 28 to 32 mpg US average have seen lower and higher depends on wind and average road grade; too windy and we would just pull over although so far not needed.

Shifter has a hill setting forget to go out of it at the top and mileage drops, have done that.

Car gets 5.7 L to 100 Km or 40.5 mpg US gal according to the dealer but they exaggerate that would be down hill in neutral I think
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"light acceleration" is another of my problems lol ....lead foot lol
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:25 PM   #21
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I have found that I get the same mileage with my Cherokee towing a 17' trailer regardless of speed under 63 mph. Over 62 mph the mileage begins to drop.
I, however, never drive a vehicle that shifts on it's own. I prefer to make that decision rather than depend upon a automatic transmission which may not make the best decisions when towing.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:43 PM   #22
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With the scamp 5'er, I get 11.5-12 @ 75mph.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:12 PM   #23
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With the scamp 5'er, I get 11.5-12 @ 75mph.
Are you just askin' for us to jump all over you, Jared?

Seriously, though: do be sure to follow statements like that up with assurances that you've put on tires that won't blow apart from the heat created by running, say, 55-65 mph. limited ST's at those speeds...

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I get about 9 MPG at 100 - 110 MPH.
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I get about 9 MPG at 100 - 110 MPH.
Hmmm...not so good...but...

That's double-towing uphill against a stiff head wind - right?

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That's uphill against a stiff head wind, though- right?

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Well lets start by saying I live in Canada; that said will convert 4 L per Gal instead of 4.5 L per Gal and km to miles hope I am close for our cousins in the south.
Or you could get closer, by using 4.54 L per imperial gallon, and 3.8 L per US gallon.

Tip: For any common conversion, just type "convert" and the values into a Google search page, e.g.
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At 4.5 L the car gets 49 mpg but in US gal 4 L it is only 40.5
I'm guessing this means that Borden's Corolla gets about 49 mpg(Imp) or 41 mpg(US), both corresponding to 5.8 L/100km... about what the Toyota Canada brochure claimed for highway driving.

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We never go over 92 kpm or 57 mph and tow as light as possible

The normal range is 80 to 92 kpm or 50 to 57 on the highway
Those "kpm" values are presumably supposed to be kilometres per hour - km/h

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Car gets 5.7 L to 100 Km or 40.5 mpg US gal according to the dealer but they exaggerate that would be down hill in neutral I think
Those are the values at the beginning of the post - are they correct or not?
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Are you just askin' for us to jump all over you, Jared?

Seriously, though: do be sure to follow statements like that up with assurances that you've put on tires that won't blow apart from the heat created by running, say, 55-65 mph. limited ST's at those speeds...

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