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Old 03-12-2013, 02:07 PM   #29
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Arlon,

I know what you mean about Texas. We spent 30+ days crossing TX and easily followed our 150 mile rule. There is just so much to see in your grand state, both tiny and big places. There are plenty of times people powered by us and probably because we generally avoid cities and really saw little traffic(though we did go to Austin and San Antonio).

I am continually amazed by the variety of Texas terrain. We hope to be back next year and increase our TX exploration. Last year we attended the Casita rally at Johnson City and had a grand time.

We would like to own a (small) diesel as well, even with the premium price of deisel fuel. Unfortunately there's not much available in our size/price range but we're patient.

Safe travels and loving Texas.
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #30
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Arlon,

I am continually amazed by the variety of Texas terrain. We hope to be back next year and increase our TX exploration.
There is a ton to do down here. My favorite time is spring when the snowbirds have headed back and kids aren't out of school yet. Space available in most parks as long as you get there before the weekend starts. There is a lot of variety here. I spent many years in SA and Houston. Recently moved to Midland and got to start exploring all over again. I make it out about once a month for a long weekend and haven't made a dent in the possibilities yet.

Hard to beat an old diesel. Unless you're trying to sneak up on something.. Hope you make it down and have safe travels. (-:}
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:49 PM   #31
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Regarding Honda's original thoughts, I believe it's simply in the nature of FG egg campers to do more with less. Our trailers are more durable and long-lived, not throwaways. They slip through the air like rounded river rocks, not battering through the breeze like boxes. They enclose us with nature's perfect form, sheltering, protective, cornerless, like a carpeted womb. There's Zen within there somewhere.

That elegant simplicity, that minimalist mastery, doesn't belong hitched up to a V-8 truck three times its weight. There's no harm in doing that, but with a big tug like that, why not go the next step into the world of 25-footers with slide-outs?

From the earliest Scamps and Bolers onwards, these have been advertised as suitable for the family car. They were meant as everyman's trailer, back when the only guys driving big pickups held journeyman's licenses. I think that's still their role, their highest and best purpose -- to offer a trailering choice for those who want to own an efficient vehicle. Especially when not towing, since almost every tow vehicle I read about here reports 16-18 mpg, including my own. Not much of a difference there, but when you unhitch, we have a 30 mpg car! Motorhome drivers have to tow one of those behind, as a dinghy, but we get to travel in our toad, avoiding two tons of truck chassis in the process.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it...
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I noticed that everyone behind me wants to go faster than me and everyone in front, wants to go slower. Why is that?
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:43 AM   #33
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From the earliest Scamps and Bolers onwards, these have been advertised as suitable for the family car. They were meant as everyman's trailer, back when the only guys driving big pickups held journeyman's licenses. I think that's still their role, their highest and best purpose -- to offer a trailering choice for those who want to own an efficient vehicle. Especially when not towing, since almost every tow vehicle I read about here reports 16-18 mpg, including my own. Not much of a difference there, but when you unhitch, we have a 30 mpg car! Motorhome drivers have to tow one of those behind, as a dinghy, but we get to travel in our toad, avoiding two tons of truck chassis in the process.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it...
Good luck with that...
There are just as many you-gotta-have-a-truck (or, weirdly, a minivan-?) folks here as in any other RV forum.

Those few of us that cling to the daily-driver-as-tug ideal can hardly keep our heads above water, most days.

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Old 07-01-2013, 12:55 AM   #34
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John, I'm sure there's a novel in there about travelling with a fiberglass egg. Yes, the more with less and Norm's slower pace seem to be so appropriate. We have no need to go at someone else's faster pace and we make sure we have enough time to take it easy.

The two-lane roads can be a challenge as far as finding a place to pull over out of the way sometimes, so the four-laners may seem better at times. But then two lanes can often be nearly empty and that's when it is the best for that slower pace. We have seen many empty roads and they beat the heck out of the highways as far as I am concerned.



[QUOTE=John McMillin;399742]Regarding Honda's original thoughts, I believe it's simply in the nature of FG egg campers to do more with less. Our trailers are more durable and long-lived, not throwaways. They slip through the air like rounded river rocks, not battering through the breeze like boxes. They enclose us with nature's perfect form, sheltering, protective, cornerless, like a carpeted womb. There's Zen within there somewhere.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:09 AM   #35
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John,
Loved your thoughts, I certainly believe our 4 cylinder can handle towing our Scamp 16.

Though we only averaged 37 mph driving around NL on the highway we drove 60. In NL we were never holding up others, even though the TCH was mostly 1 lane they had plenty of passing lanes for the really fast drivers. RCMP is the rule in NL but they are really rare.

On our way through northern ME we drove even faster, little traffic and did a section at 65. Trailer handled just fine and Honda did its usual good job.

The back roads of NL have some long steep climbs between little fishing villages, again no problem.

We are ready to return to NL and only home for 2 days.
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When I towed my little red gypsy caravan last year I kinda kept my mouth shut about my gas useage...I averaged about 13-14mpg at 65 because of its un-aerodynamic shape. Well the last 2 hot weekends I averaged just about 15mpg towing at around 60'ish with my ac running. Someone this weekend told me I should look into a F250 to tow it with since its less of a strain on the TV...I laughed at them and told them my trailer packed weighs around 2600lbs with full water tank and generator... I want a pickup truck for a few reasons but a midsized one would be fine for my needs...dont need an 8cyl full sized truck for a fiberglass trailer. Even the Escaps 5.0 I would love to have is meant for a 6cyl truck lol.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:39 AM   #38
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Derek,
We spent about $1300 over 6+ weeks on gas, about $200 a week while averaging 22 mpg.

If we averaged 15 mpg it would have been an extra $100 a week, not prohibitive, but it might have mean less newfie fish and chips or even no cod tongues.

P.S. Air conditioning was not needed. Only turn it on occasionally for 'AC exercise'.

Safe travels and hope you get your 5.0
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Hey Norm! Im all for saving on gas lol... its getting expensive! Ah the 5.0 is many years down the road for me... when retirement looms closer, I like the extra space it would provide, and of course some extra space in the truck for all my craft stuff if I was living on the road lol.
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Deryk,

Your comment reminds me of one unexpected result of our long term RVing.

Our pre-RVing interests have lessened and been replaced by a curiosity for new and different. Previous interests have diminished in significance. We're now more interested in geology, people, differences, on the road stimulation.

In a sense theres not a lot of extension.



Of course our Scamp has become our focus, it's our real home because we spend 70% of year in it. It's also interesting because that little space has become enough.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:14 PM   #41
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I'm waiting for the new dodge 1/2 ton diesel. Might actually trade in the 3/4 ton cummins when the new 1/2 ton comes out. I'll keep using the cummins until something better comes along.. So far, nothing has and I can carry a lot of rocks I pick up along the way.. (-:}
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Regarding highway tow speeds, you can never have enough of that to foil the universal reaction most other drivers have: "There's a trailer up ahead, better pass it." We've all been stuck behind slow trailers, and that was unpleasant. Therefore, we never want to be caught following a slow trailer, or any trailer at all. No matter if you're towing at 50, 60 or 70 mph- at the next hill, you might slow down to 30. That's the thinking, methinks, behind our fellow motorists reactions to us. There's also plenty of drivers who will drive faster and faster until they come up behind slower traffic ahead.

Combine these two types, and you see how you can never win. Whether you tow with a 4-cylinder Honda or a 10-cylinder TDI turbodiesel, you just look like "a slow trailer" from behind. So drivers will start itching to pass as soon as they see you.

That said, I'm glad I have that turbo to preserve power at the high altitudes I'm towing at! On my first trip with the Tiguan last weekend, the speed limit was always in reach, though I didn't want to press the car that hard on the steepest stretches. Most of the time, my towing speed wasn't power-limited, but limited by the commonly held speed ratings for trailer tires, and my respect for the dynamics of hauling a ton of weight behind the car. That wouldn't change if I had a bigger engine.
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