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06-10-2015, 11:23 AM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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Towing with a Jeep Liberty
Get ready to hook up my 2008 casita spirit deluxe to my 2006 Jeep Liberty diesel. It's equiped with the factory hitch and wiring 7 pin, Any comments or helpfull advice
Electronic brake controller? I've used the prodigy on my sprinter and seems just fine
Thanks Brent
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06-10-2015, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp
Minnesota
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brentsdeal
Get ready to hook up my 2008 casita spirit deluxe to my 2006 Jeep Liberty diesel. It's equiped with the factory hitch and wiring 7 pin, Any comments or helpfull advice
Electronic brake controller? I've used the prodigy on my sprinter and seems just fine
Thanks Brent
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Have fun, and a safe trip. I have no idea of the towing capacity of a Liberty diesel, but, Diesel engines develop their torque at low rpm's and generally make fantastic tow vehicles!
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2021 Nissan Pro 4X. 2020 Scamp 19’ Deluxe.
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06-10-2015, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Scamp 13
California
Posts: 1,889
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Our gasoline 2006 jeep liberty has a 5000 lb tow capacity.
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06-10-2015, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 94 Scamp 13 ft
Posts: 333
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Our 2005 Liberty CRD has a 5000 lb tow capacity, too. We installed a Tekonsha Prodigy rf brake controller on our 16' Scamp and it works well.
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06-10-2015, 10:53 PM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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Equalizing hitch,
I hope I won't need a load equalizing hitch with my Liberty diesel, anyone have experience with this set up
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06-11-2015, 04:53 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Wayne
Trailer: Airstream Sold, Nest Fan
Ontario
Posts: 2,002
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Good day Brent. You can get by having a headache but taking an Asprin makes life better. Generally speaking the same applies to using a WDH.
Not a Casita but this Jeep towing a similar lightweight 16' towed much better with a WDH.
The result is a level rig, better ride and added safety.
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06-11-2015, 08:41 AM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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I was hoping to keep it simple, I towed my 25 airstream with a small Mercedes ML suv and found it handled better without the load leveling set up, I guess I'll have to see how the liberty matches up, thanks Brent
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06-11-2015, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Wayne
Trailer: Airstream Sold, Nest Fan
Ontario
Posts: 2,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brentsdeal
I was hoping to keep it simple, I towed my 25 airstream with a small Mercedes ML suv and found it handled better without the load leveling set up, I guess I'll have to see how the liberty matches up, thanks Brent
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Nothing wrong with keeping it simple Brent. In all my years of towing and being on RV forums you are the 1st to comment that the combo handled better on the ball VS with a WDH. We know the ML's are great TV's. Wondering if the WDH was set up correctly on ML/Airstream???? Guess we will never know.
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06-11-2015, 08:59 AM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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What's the tongue weight and total trailer weight of your set up? Is your liberty a diesel? If so how do you like it? Brent
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06-11-2015, 09:35 AM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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I think the ML worked so well it had a very short axle to ball distance, very little drop when the trailer was hooked up, I have a load leveling set up if I need it, thanks Brent
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06-11-2015, 10:42 PM
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Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: In the Market
Virginia
Posts: 97
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Mercedes ML TV
Quote:
Originally Posted by MC1
Nothing wrong with keeping it simple Brent. In all my years of towing and being on RV forums you are the 1st to comment that the combo handled better on the ball VS with a WDH. We know the ML's are great TV's. Wondering if the WDH was set up correctly on ML/Airstream???? Guess we will never know.
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Folks I don't mean to hijack this thread. Your comments about the ML's towing ability are the first that I have heard and I will be towing with one. I just wondered if you had any thoughts / suggestions for me? Any would be appreciated. I haven't gotten my camper yet but I'm trying to learn. Thanks, Michael
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06-11-2015, 10:45 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mbbear
Folks I don't mean to hijack this thread. Your comments about the ML's towing ability are the first that I have heard and I will be towing with one. I just wondered if you had any thoughts / suggestions for me? Any would be appreciated. I haven't gotten my camper yet but I'm trying to learn. Thanks, Michael
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You are about to be mired deeper than you ever imagined.
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06-12-2015, 12:45 AM
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Member
Name: Brent
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 87
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I towed a 25' airstream with a 1998 ML 320 (v6) it did a great job! I started out with a load leveling hitch but found it porpoised over freeway humps and rode and controlled better without the load leveler hooked up.
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06-12-2015, 01:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
You are about to be mired deeper than you ever imagined.
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Probably 20 by noon tomorrow
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06-12-2015, 05:55 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Wayne
Trailer: Airstream Sold, Nest Fan
Ontario
Posts: 2,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mbbear
Folks I don't mean to hijack this thread. Your comments about the ML's towing ability are the first that I have heard and I will be towing with one. I just wondered if you had any thoughts / suggestions for me? Any would be appreciated. I haven't gotten my camper yet but I'm trying to learn. Thanks, Michael
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Good day Michael.. Towing performance of the high end import SUV's is amazing and worth a discussion. Suggest starting a new thread on the subject and we can get into it.
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06-12-2015, 06:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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I towed with my Jeep CRD well over 5,000 miles several types of trailers, finally blew a turbo hose on my last trip and had to stop in a truck shop for temporary repair. Then diesel fuel started to skyrocket so I traded it on a gas liberty.
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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06-12-2015, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Jim,
Are you saying the difference in fuel cost was not justified by the difference in mpg?
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2014 Honda Odyssey
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06-12-2015, 07:55 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Yes, when I purchased the diesel it was less expensive than regular gas, now it costs more than premium and the 30-40% upcharge for fuel evened the playing field with gas.
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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06-12-2015, 09:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,445
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I thought a lot about this and when the fuel cost os 25 - 30 % higher for Diesel then the fuel cost alone does not work out. The thinking on my part was the additional torque available at low rpm. I figured that if I went with one of the higher powered Turob gas engined tow vehicles then I would have to use premium fuel with less difference in cost and STILL not have the low end torque.
The VW Sportwagen TDI I have been using has the pulling power (torque) even thoug the horsepower rating is only 140. The torque is 240 from idle to redline (pretty much).
As with everything it is the owners choice and in my case I chose to add a "new" 20013 VW Sportwagen with 25,000 miles to the fleet to replace (Add to ) the 2009 I already had. I did the math and the thinking and chose to do it again.
Before everyone starts on the towing with the Sportwagen most of the small SUV (CUV) s are really only taller compact wagons etc. that have been made taller to be "crossovers". The VW Tigual is a fat Golf Wagen that is taller, heavier, has a thirsty gas engine and slush pump automatic.
Nothing tows like a Diesel!
Norm - If you ever pass through Mobile you are welcome to try my TV for size.
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06-12-2015, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Scamp 13
California
Posts: 1,889
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The Jeep Liberty Diesel was a nice package until they started tearing up the automatic transmissions. Then Jeep sent out a service bulletin that reprogrammed the computer to take power out of the motor. While it help saved the transmission the de-tune took out a good chunk of power and drastically dropped the mileage. Then Jeep dropped the diesel Liberty. Its a shame it was a very nice package. My Lesley loves her gas powered Liberty. Well most everything, the mileage sucks for a 2006. 15 MPG in town, 20 highway. Slightly worse than my 2001 Nissan Pathfinder which is 1.5 times the truck with a slightly smaller motor.
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