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Old 03-26-2013, 06:20 PM   #15
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Well, I know some folks that towed a Casita with a convertible Corvette...

And yeah, I've met them and yes they towed with a Corvette (safely)... this is just an example of their business card...

Their tug and tow was quite the hit at an Oregon Gathering.
Fascinating. Does that mean that you are only allowed to massively exceed your rated towing capacity if you either
  1. have your rig set up by the magicians of Can Am RV, or
  2. use a really cool car like a Corvette?
I can't imagine why this 'Vette rig would not receive the same heaps of warning and contempt as some members have received for their more reasonable over-the-rating rigs. No such criticism from me - I assume these people accept their responsibility to make this highly non-recommended configuration work.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:29 PM   #16
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.. see no gains in going to a "bigger" receiver. I tow a 4500 on a class II hitch without problems. It's the hitch designed for my car.
I agree.

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I called them and they said they could custom make one for the Impala. He said it would cost around $350 - $400. Is that reasonable?
For a custom version of something that would cost about half that mass-produced? Yes, that seems reasonable to me. Now, how much do you trust the design and fabrication skills of the guy who is going to build this?

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Also if Uhaul has a Class II hitch, would that mean it would be safe to say that the Impala could handle my Trillium?
No, the existence of a hitch of any given rating says absolutely nothing about the suitability of the vehicle for a trailer of that weight. The Impala may be capable of much less, or much more, than the hitch rating.

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Interesting!
Keep in mind that the "300 hp" quoted in that article is a fantasy by Chevrolet. Years later they switched to a more honest SAE-defined net power rating system, and by that standard the number would be much lower... probably less than 200 horsepower.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:34 PM   #17
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... I found a 1970 Chevy Impala it has a 350 with a 400 turbo transmission.
My parents had a 1971 Chevrolet Kingswood Estate (the wagon version of the Impala). I learned to drive in it and (mostly) in a 1973 Gremlin. The Chevy had disintegrated by 1979 at about 100,000 miles (mostly by rusting, by also with transmission failure and other mechanical issues), with regular maintenance and no severe use; it went from us to a wrecker. I hope this convertible has lasted better, and drives better!
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I found this place by my Mom's house.

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I called them and they said they could custom make one for the Impala. He said it would cost around $350 - $400. Is that reasonable?
If it is well built well and they install it right I would say that is fair and reasonable. I would assume they are talking class III or higher. I would not put a class ll on a full size car. That is just wrong
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If it is well built well and they install it right I would say that is fair and reasonable. I would assume they are talking class III or higher. I would not put a class ll on a full size car.
I agree... but it won't have any class, assuming that the shop does not test the design according to the procedures of SAE standard J684. It will just be a receiver with a 2" box which the fabricator claims is suitable for some particular weight of trailer.

If going the custom route, it seems reasonable to me to fabricate something which might pass the tests for a Class 3 (5000 lb trailer) capacity, for this size of car, since there is a good chance that someone will load it that heavily at some point in the future.
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Dont let the na sayers burn your dreams!!
You wont even feel that trill behind you!
Make sure the car is healthy brakes are good and enjoy.
My car is way smaller than an Impala, doesnt have a frame and
Drum brakes. We have pulled to and through the mountains many times
have had ZERO issues with handling and or stopping,, Oh its always had WAY too much power for the job
I bought a hitch at a garage sale and modified it to fit my car.
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Fascinating. Does that mean that you are only allowed to massively exceed your rated towing capacity if you either
  1. have your rig set up by the magicians of Can Am RV, or
  2. use a really cool car like a Corvette?
I can't imagine why this 'Vette rig would not receive the same heaps of warning and contempt as some members have received for their more reasonable over-the-rating rigs. No such criticism from me - I assume these people accept their responsibility to make this highly non-recommended configuration work.

I, for one, don't give anyone, including Can Am RV, a carte blanche okeydokey to exceed any mfgs. specifications. I don't know about liability laws north of the border, but a shop would have to be run by fools to do what they do here in the USofA.

And about the Corvette: I didn't see the owner here on the site to answer so I don't see that it is beneficial to comment on their choices. However, you can be sure that at least the Corvette will have enough brakes for a small FGRV.

And sorry, but just letting someone else accept responsibility for poor choices isn't good enough for me when they are on the road with me, my children and grandchildren. In many respects it's not really that different than DUI when something goes wrong. (But Ossifer, I only had one tiny drinkeypoo, I'm OK to drive")

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I have good friends who towed a 25' stickie with their 1967 Mercury Monterrey Convertible. They are thinking of selling the car and I am really tempted to buy it to tow the Fiber Stream with.
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I, for one, don't give anyone, including Can Am RV, a carte blanche okeydokey to exceed any mfgs. specifications.
I'll apologize to everyone now, in advance of any sidetrack this thread might take into the famous/infamous Can Am. My point was just that the Corvette endorsement seemed out of place compared to other posts.

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And about the Corvette: I didn't see the owner here on the site to answer so I don't see that it is beneficial to comment on their choices. However, you can be sure that at least the Corvette will have enough brakes for a small FGRV.
I wasn't commenting so much on their choice, as on the reaction (or lack of) in this discussion to it.

But since you brought it up, Bob... the problem with trailer braking is not so much the capacity of the brakes on the car, as it is the traction available to tires that are not carrying the trailer weight (weight = traction), and the problem of controlling something which is pushing you from behind. So, big brakes or not, still an obviously not recommended tow vehicle. The old convertible proposed by Arthur might be perfectly suitable... depending on the specific car, especially with trailer brakes, which I think a Trillium 4500 normally has (I could be mistaken on that).
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One of the Snoozy owners pulls with a SSR convertible.

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I saw one of these pulling a fairly large boat between Las Vegas and Searchlight, NV just last Friday. Top was down, driver about 70, passenger MUST have been his grand-daughter (right!) Now that was cool. (The TV, not the couple)
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One of the Snoozy owners pull with a SSR convertible.
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... My point was just that the Corvette endorsement seemed out of place compared to other posts.
It wasn't an endorsement Brian, just the fact someone DID pull a trailer with a convertible and the owner mentioned the big ole white box was all she could see behind her.
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It was once explained that if you used physics to design and build the perfect tow vehicle the resulting vehicle would be a Corvette! The physics would be low centre of gravity, power, brakes, state of the art suspension, etc.

The only problem.......................no place to put the kids and firewood.
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It was once explained that if you used physics to design and build the perfect tow vehicle the resulting vehicle would be a Corvette! The physics would be low centre of gravity, power, brakes, state of the art suspension, etc.

The only problem.......................no place to put the kids and firewood.

Most of North America is convinced that only pick up trucks can tow. That's OK, I made a good living selling trucks to people that mostly used them as commuter transportation.
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My Series III Corvette had the widest tires I have ever had to replace on a vehicle. (Almost $1200 for 4) While I am not suggesting them as a tow vehicle, I don't think that tires or brakes would be where they fall short.

In as much as the last two years of SSR production came with the Corvette engine, and has a trailer rating (2500 lbs) and an available factory trailer package, as well as someplace to stick the firewood etc. it might be a better bet.

It would be my guess that many Corvette and SSR owners are either to young or to Senior to be concerned about transporting children

And, as used SSR's are selling for about the same price as a new base 4 cylinder Toyota Tacoma, it could be enough to tempt 25 y.o. passengers (a grand-daughter of course!) to join in on the fun.

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