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Old 03-30-2013, 11:56 PM   #85
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Dunno about your hitch/vehicle but:

The hitch we were talking about is an aftermarket one that Raz put on his Subaru- I think it was a Forester- and he specifically said that it attached at four points only, and that there was no interior reinforcement provided by the supplier. He himself expressed some trepidations about the arrangement.

I'd be happy to dig the convo up, but it seems sorta pointless since evidently the only evidence that counts is the "fact" that you "haven't seen a subaru on the side of the road missing one end or the other yet." (sic)

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It's basically the same setup as mine, and they do include some small plates to slide in there. Since you're adamant about it, please show me a failed aftermarket subaru hitch. I can tell you it's strong enough to take the car bottoming out hard enough on the bike rack at 30 mph to make the traction light come on. Car, bike rack, hitch, no damage other than scrapes.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:40 AM   #86
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Hmmm. I thought we were talking about Towing with a older convertible car?
We are- my response was related to "Dubya's" post regarding hitches. See below.
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It's basically the same setup as mine, and they do include some small plates to slide in there. Since you're adamant about it, please show me a failed aftermarket subaru hitch. I can tell you it's strong enough to take the car bottoming out hard enough on the bike rack at 30 mph to make the traction light come on. Car, bike rack, hitch, no damage other than scrapes.
I'm adamant about nothing, only supportive of folks looking with a jaded eye at aftermarket substitutes that purport to perform as intended by the manufacturers/designers of the vehicles they're attached to (see originally responded to post below).

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Fred, Nice Fairlaine and receiver.

After having a U Haul "2" installed on our Nissan Van I was not impressed. The van came with 6 factory threaded inserts but the U-Haul receiver design only used 4 of them.

Within a few hours I fabricated some extra parts and welded them in place. The receiver now used all 6 threaded inserts plus a welded portion I put in place myself. So much stronger and flex free as I was using a WDH.
As for the "show me" challenge: if actual failure was necessary for proof of poor design, there'd be no need/market for engineers - or for the laws of physics, for that matter.

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I won't argue that mc's mod isn't better, that's obvious. However, how many if those hitches have ever failed? Don't get me wrong, I rebuild/overbuild also, but it doesn't mean it's necessary. I cut the "fifth wheel" hitch off my scamp as soon as I got it, because I thought it was a horrid design (still do). However, not one has failed to my knowledge.

If these were that bad, there would be lawsuits and recalls. The only bad hitch I've known about are FACTORY dodge ram hitches.
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Hmmm. I thought we were talking about Towing with a older convertible car?
I guess I was too subtle about this thread getting off topic. I don't remember Subaru ever making a Convertible. I certainly don't see the connection to Subaru hitch installations. Let's return this thread to discussing Towing eggs with Older Convertible Cars, OK?
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I guess I was too subtle about this thread getting off topic. I don't remember Subaru ever making a Convertible. I certainly don't see the connection to Subaru hitch installations. Let's return this thread to discussing Towing eggs with Older Convertible Cars, OK?

Point of order, please:

The O.P. specifically asked about hitches. Dubya brought up a point about the way hitches are attached and I agreed with him that it's a valid point. I guess the two of us erred by citing specific examples that are on vehicle brands/types outside the original query.

It would be most helpful if someone could post a definition of the limits within which responses can be made to the thread opener, here quoted for convenient reference:


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I want to buy an older convertible car, something between 1964 to 1970. I own a Trillium 4500.

For example I found a 1970 Chevy Impala it has a 350 with a 400 turbo transmission. Should be no problem pullling my Trillium.

I can't find any towing specs for the Impala. Also I can only find a class II hitch made by Uhaul with a 1 1/4" receiver. I'd prefer a 2" receiver with a minimum class III...

Has anyone had a custom hitch made before? Can anyone suggest someone in BC, I'm in Whistler?

What are your thoughts? Any concerns or red flags?
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Point of order, please:

The O.P. specifically asked about hitches. Dubya brought up a point about the way hitches are attached and I agreed with him that it's a valid point. I guess the two of us erred by citing specific examples that are on vehicle brands/types outside the original query.
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For example I found a 1970 Chevy Impala it has a 350 with a 400 turbo transmission. Should be no problem pullling my Trillium.

I can't find any towing specs for the Impala. Also I can only find a class II hitch made by Uhaul with a 1 1/4" receiver. I'd prefer a 2" receiver with a minimum class III...
I see a couple of challenges in finding a hitch for an older car:
  • we are accustomed to getting ready-made hitches for just about any model of car now, but this wasn't necessarily the case four or five decades ago; and,
  • hitch manufacturers cannot keep every model in production forever, so they are available after a new model is introduced (a delay for the hitch people to catch up), and in some cases only for a few years after that.

By the time I wanted a hitch for my Tercel, they didn't exist anymore. I would now get a hitch for any car I buy, if it had any significant chance of ever needing one, before they disappear. This, of course, is not an option in this case.

The old convertible is likely to be a classic design, and that's actually an advantage, as continuing interest may keep hitches available although they would vanish for models of less enthusiast interest.

U-Haul doesn't generally make hitches; they just sell them. In the example of the Impala, U-Haul part UHI36911CH is for the "2DR", but may not fit the convertible... I don't know if the rear was different enough to matter. In this case, the web page of search results for the Impala include this:
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U-Haul is the only known company with a hitch that will fit your vehicle. However, these trailer hitches are built as ordered, so please allow 14 additional business days to complete the manufacturing process.
My guess is that they special-order them from one of the major hitch manufacturers (U-Haul has used Cequent, Valley, and Curt for other vehicles), and that manufacturer no longer has this model in their catalog.

Personally, I would rather use whatever U-Haul sells than trust an unknown custom fabricator, to tow a trailer well within the rating of the commercially produced hitch. I would look at the hitch design - particularly the mounting - to see if I had any issues with it.
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I don't remember Subaru ever making a Convertible.?
Sad news for your Frederick they have made a few of them over the years.
A photo of one in 1982 and the newest for 2014.
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Sad news for your Frederick they have made a few of them over the years.
Alrighty then!

So-o-o... Anybody here using a 1982 Subaru Convertible to tow with?
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Alrighty then!

So-o-o... Anybody here using a 1982 Subaru Convertible to tow with?
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