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Old 01-14-2013, 11:01 PM   #29
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His Escape is not a molded "Escape Industries Ltd" trailer but a SOB type.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:29 PM   #30
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You guys are killing me, now it SOB. Do I dare ask what SOB stands for?
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Some other brand- SOB
http://kz-rv.com/spree-escape/E14RB
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:36 AM   #32
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Francesca, me thinks that Escape come only in 13, 15, 17, 19 and the 5.0 versions. I don't recall any Escape 14 footer.

Turns out we're both wrong "Escape" comes in a 16 foot version, too!

Here's the Escape E14RB:



But I still think "RB" means rear bed....

Francesca

P.S. per your semantics question:

"SOB" is a scornful way to refer to trailers that aren't cast in a fiberglass mold.

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Old 01-15-2013, 09:03 AM   #33
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Turns out we're both wrong "Escape" comes in a 16 foot version, too!

Here's the Escape E14RB:



But I still think "RB" means rear bed....

Francesca

P.S. per your semantics question:

"SOB" is a scornful way to refer to trailers that aren't cast in a fiberglass mold.

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RB= rear bath, s= slide, ss= super side, BH = bunk house, RK= rear kitchen, RE= rear entertainment, RL= rear living, FK= front kitchen, QB or QBUD = quad bunk, TB or TBUD= triple bunk, FL= front living, OK= outside kitchen (have seen this one on occasion) you may see a mix ie RKOK= rear kitchen and outside kitchen, ignore the # on the unit for length, it has become kind of meaningless. ie my 26BL is a 30' bunkhose.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:05 AM   #34
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Turns out we're both wrong "Escape" comes in a 16 foot version, too!

Here's the Escape E14RB:



But I still think "RB" means rear bed....

Francesca

P.S. per your semantics question:

"SOB" is a scornful way to refer to trailers that aren't cast in a fiberglass mold.

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looking at the layout... I'm guessing RB means Rear Bath!
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:18 AM   #35
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RB= rear bath, s= slide, ss= super side, BH = bunk house, RK= rear kitchen, RE= rear entertainment, RL= rear living, FK= front kitchen, QB or QBUD = quad bunk, TB or TBUD= triple bunk, FL= front living, OK= outside kitchen (have seen this one on occasion) you may see a mix ie RKOK= rear kitchen and outside kitchen, ignore the # on the unit for length, it has become kind of meaningless. ie my 26BL is a 30' bunkhose.
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looking at the layout... I'm guessing RB means Rear Bath!
OH! Yeah- that door would make getting past a "rear bed" pretty awkward, right? Once again, my idjit switch kicked on...

And thanks for the " abbreviations key", Dave!

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:37 PM   #36
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Mike,

In your scenario....are you saying I would have to manually shift the gears up and down??
Not at all. When you move the shifter to S, it's able to shift anywhere between 1, 2, 3, and 4 all on its own. It won't go into 5th... unless you tap the lever UP, or back to the right for Drive.

Now, if you tap the lever DOWN once while in S, that will also lock out 4th. Now it will shift by itself, as needed, between 1, 2, and 3.... but not 4 or 5.

Tap it down again, and it'll lock out 3rd. Now it can only shift on its own between 1 and 2. I've used this while towing my trailer up Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado, and similar steep, long, winding passes.

Yes, I have a SOB trailer. What can I say? It's a stickie with FG gelcoat, and I paid less than $10K for it brand new. Hopefully it will last for half a decade or so. It's 16' long, but minus the tongue I guess it's 14', so it's E (for Escape) 14 (box length) RB (rear bath).
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:50 PM   #37
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Yes, I have a SOB trailer. What can I say? It's a stickie with FG gelcoat, and I paid less than $10K for it brand new. Hopefully it will last for half a decade or so. It's 16' long, but minus the tongue I guess it's 14', so it's E (for Escape) 14 (box length) RB (rear bath).
Good grief- it's not like you have to confess or anything, Mike. That's a great little trailer and a lot lighter than some of the big boys in this so-called "lightweight trailers" forum!

Sheesh...it's like folks think there's been an "outing" or something...

Stick with us, Mike!

Francesca

P.S. to all:

And can everybody please stop saying "SOB"???

In the first place it's rude, and in the second place it was coined at the Airstream Forums and it's their derogatory term for anyone that "can't" own an AIRSTREAM.

Yes....that's right...fiberglass trailer are "SOB's" by definition, so let's just knock it off with using that term against our own members' rigs.

End of speechifying. For now.

Have a nice day!

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:56 PM   #38
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P.S. to all:

And can everybody please stop saying "SOB"???

In the first place it's rude, and in the second place it was coined at the Airstream Forums and it's their derogatory term for anyone that "can't" own an AIRSTREAM.

Yes....that's right...fiberglass trailer are "SOB's" by definition, so let's just knock it off with using that term against our own members' rigs.

End of speechifying. For now.

Have a nice day!

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Old 01-15-2013, 08:30 PM   #39
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When you move the shifter to S, it's able to shift anywhere between 1, 2, 3, and 4 all on its own. It won't go into 5th... unless you tap the lever UP, or back to the right for Drive.

Now, if you tap the lever DOWN once while in S, that will also lock out 4th. Now it will shift by itself, as needed, between 1, 2, and 3.... but not 4 or 5.

Tap it down again, and it'll lock out 3rd. Now it can only shift on its own between 1 and 2. I've used this while towing my trailer up Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado, and similar steep, long, winding passes.
In other words, "+" and "-" just move the selection one step at a time along the traditional P-R-N-D-5-4-3-2-L sequence... without needing all of those notches on shift lever mechanism (just P-R-N-D-+/-). At each step, the chosen "gear" is the highest gear the transmission will use (other than a likely protective upshift if you go too fast for the selected gear and try to drive the engine over 6000 or 7000 rpm).

This is the same behaviour described for the 2011+ Sienna (in a thread in another forum), which seems likely to be the same transmission.

In many other vehicles, the "+/-" mode is a manual selection; in this case it's still automatic, which is why its operation was not obvious... unless, of course, you read the manual.
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Now, if you tap the lever DOWN once while in S, that will also lock out 4th. Now it will shift by itself, as needed, between 1, 2, and 3.... but not 4 or 5.
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Can't recall your tow vehicle Mike, but the manual for my RAV4 says to tow in 4, not in Drive and not to tow uphill for any extended time in 3. Toyota wants you to leave in in 4 and let the vehicle do the downshift as required.

Showing off, I dropped down to 3 and headed for the top of the Coquihalla at 60+ mph once ( with the trailer ). Almost got to the top when the transmission overheat light came on. Moved it back to 4 and eased off. All OK in the end, but I won't do it again. ( had a scheduled full service including transmission fluid shortly after ).
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Can't recall your tow vehicle Mike, but the manual for my RAV4 says to tow in 4, not in Drive and not to tow uphill for any extended time in 3. Toyota wants you to leave in in 4 and let the vehicle do the downshift as required.

Showing off, I dropped down to 3 and headed for the top of the Coquihalla at 60+ mph once ( with the trailer ). Almost got to the top when the transmission overheat light came on. Moved it back to 4 and eased off. All OK in the end, but I won't do it again. ( had a scheduled full service including transmission fluid shortly after ).
I don't recall seeing anything like that in my Highlander's manual. And I really can't imagine why the tranny would get hotter in 4th gear than it would in 3rd. The lower gear is moving fluid through the cooler more quickly, I think, so it should do better. I've had mechanics tell me that it's perfectly ok to run a vehicle all day long in a lower gear at, say, 4000 rpm, and that although it sounds noisier it's really easier on the drive train than using the higher gear.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:07 PM   #42
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Good grief- it's not like you have to confess or anything, Mike. That's a great little trailer and a lot lighter than some of the big boys in this so-called "lightweight trailers" forum!

Sheesh...it's like folks think there's been an "outing" or something...

Stick with us, Mike!

Francesca

P.S. to all:

And can everybody please stop saying "SOB"???

In the first place it's rude, and in the second place it was coined at the Airstream Forums and it's their derogatory term for anyone that "can't" own an AIRSTREAM.

Yes....that's right...fiberglass trailer are "SOB's" by definition, so let's just knock it off with using that term against our own members' rigs.

End of speechifying. For now.

Have a nice day!

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Confession is good for the soul. Sorta like an alcoholic at an AA meeting... here I stand, admitting I'm a SOB owner....

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