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Old 06-06-2014, 08:05 PM   #43
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So I finally remembered this thread and the other thread at the same to post over something I found.

Here's the video review of the car;
Thnxs for posting SG. As the vid shows the car does a nice job of handling the TT. It really surprises me how well considering it is just a ball mount connection*. When you bring the car to NA and add a WDH it is easy to understand how it could even get better.

*with built in Euro friction sway control
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Actually it shows how well a vehicle can handle when operated within it's manufacturers specifications.

With a 75 KG (about 165 lbs) hitch limit, it would barely be able to pull most 13' Scamps. And, unfortunately, they didn't tell us what the test caravan weighed and, although they mentioned "Motorway Speeds", they didn't tell what that speed is. Maybe Andrew will chime in with some numbers.

Sounds like VW made a great vehicle, at least until someone screws with it to try to make it into something it wasn't designed to be.....
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Thank You Brian for that very candid and telling post.....Needless to say, I'm with you on that.

Unless they are shipping Jetta's from Pueblo to Germany, it kinda throws cold water on some of the Euro vs. NA claims doesn't it?
Many if not all of the major auto manufacturers have plants in Mexico and in numerous countries around the world. I just read a page of the Ford plants world wide, it's really amazing.

Ford has been nationally and internationally successful by building cars for the world. If anything, at least on the surface, North Americans get less of what Ford builds, at the very minimum of what I would like to buy. We must remember that Ford is the only American car company that did not get billions from the taxpayers. This is rather impressive when it was probably available to them as well.

I do not get concerned where our car is built. My major concern is can the vehicle do the job I need well.
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...although they mentioned "Motorway Speeds", they didn't tell what that speed is. Maybe Andrew will chime in with some numbers.
The 'caravan' (=travel trailer) they quote has the following data:
- unladen weight 1140kg = 2511 pounds
- maximum laden weight 1261kg = 2777 pounds
- overall length 6.06m = 19 feet 11 inches
- overall width 2.25m = 7 feet 5 inches
- original new price 16900 ~= US$28400

'Motorway' is the British equivalent for interstate, so the towing speed limit would be 60mph and few would exceed 70mph.
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Andrew,

What specific model is the trailer?
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The 'caravan' (=travel trailer) they quote has the following data:
- unladen weight 1140kg = 2511 pounds
- maximum laden weight 1261kg = 2777 pounds
- overall length 6.06m = 19 feet 11 inches
- overall width 2.25m = 7 feet 5 inches
- original new price 16900 ~= US$28400

'Motorway' is the British equivalent for interstate, so the towing speed limit would be 60mph and few would exceed 70mph.
Thank You Andy, two additional questions:

1. Is the difference between empty and maximum weight for that trailer only 121kg (266 lbs)
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2. Is towing speed on motorways less than maximum vehicle speeds. I know from experience, thanks to the speed camera system that few exceed what's posted!

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Never mind on #2, I found this:

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Looks like 96kph/60mph is about it.
Needless to say, those that need to tow at 75-80 mph wouldn't be happy there.
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Looks like 96kph/60mph is about it.
Needless to say, those that need to tow at 75-80 mph wouldn't be happy there.
Especially if you were towing with one of these.......
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It seems to me that Canada is both less litigious, and less regulated then most places. Canadians are not typically very nationalistic, well at least not in a bragging kind of way, but I think the above statement is made possible by the character of Canadians as a whole. We are, in my opinion, less confrontational and more practical then most cultures.

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IMHO towing with a diesel is the best power plant choice because it improves both fuel continue and range. I had a second tank in my 1981 Rabbit and got as much as 800 miles on 20 gallons. Modern diesels make more power. I look forward to seeing the new Ram pickup, Jeep Wrangler diesel, and hopefully Subaru will gets act together and bring in its diesel.

I drove and towed a snow mobile trailer
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If you're from the USA or Canada there are large distances to cover, not so much in the UK.
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True Norm.

There are a couple thing to consider for an individual. Will they be towing long distances and what tow vehicle will they select.

One can research the vehicle to see what components it has and what king of history does it have based on other's experience.

For example. Our local RV expert has written about setting up particular vehicles. In some cases 100's. With that many out on the roads the feedback from owners is invaluable. Using that kind of info is a huge plus when choosing a TV that is going to perform. Also reviewing info from folks like you a valued gift.

There is also a difference between someone who is going to tow a short distance on flat land a couple times a year compared to someone like yourself who travels everywhere, and then some.

As for the Jetta it looks like it has a good towing record even when towing larger trailers than glass eggs. Knowing that is all goodness for folks on this form who are towing the lightweights.

All this is surely a step up than just using a number like the tow rating to select a TV.
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I agree positive experience is tough to beat.

As to experience, yesterday I was talking to the owner of the local grocery store, since I'm taken with the icebergs he related how he had taken a cruise to Alaska.

He commented that it was a fun cruise. During a part of the cruise the captain announced that an iceberg could be seen on the starboard side. He like the rest of the passengers went to see the berg. Most were delighted, coming from Fogo he was disappointed his iceberg experience was quite different from the insignificant berg the other's experience.

He was use to the bruiser bergs here. Out our window the last few days is the largest we've seen. I estimate it's above water height at 17 stories; below water who knows except to say only 10% is above water. It is at the tip of the neighboring island and taller than any point on the island. We hope to be over there in the morning and possibly get a closer view.

People with real experience that do 100's of tow vehicle installations, with feedback from the 100's who may have accumulated 1,000,000 tow miles is definitely valuable.

For a new tow vehicle I'm leaning towards a TDI; my partner is leaning towards a Pilot.

Safe travels Wayne
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Hmm, did anyone read the thread I linked to? A Canadian from BC is towing a Airstream Bambi with a VW Golf. TT base weight is 2860lbs and gross weight 3500lbs.

BTW - different chassis then the current Jetta sedan, but same as the wagon. I considered this combo but $$$ and towing at very limit with a car over 100k miles kept from doing it.

Maybe when we upgrade the wife's car.

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