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Old 07-25-2012, 07:02 AM   #15
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I actually talked to Subaru about it last month and they indicated that even though I was using good working brakes on the trailer I could expect to see a higher level of wear on the brakes so they were not as surprised by it as I am.


If set up optimally the trailer brakes will actuate slightly before the car brakes thus "assisting" the car with it's braking. This will actually reduce the brake wear in the TV.

This assumes the trailer brakes and their operation have the size and power to perform at this level.

Does the Subaru rep understand the braking power and properties of your particular trailer. Probably not.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:14 AM   #16
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My sweetie just got back from the Toyota dealer for out 40,000 mile (overdue!) checkup. This one included brakes and suspension. Since we've just concluded a 4,700 mile trip pulling the Scamp I was anxious to see if any problems had developed. The only thing they found was that the front brakes will need new pads in around 10,000 miles...and I'm pretty sure that's not related to the Scamp.

End conclusion? A Toyota Rav4 V6 with the towing upgrade (extra transmission radiator) is well suited to pulling a fully-loaded 16' Scamp!
It sounds like your factory brakes are not up to the job if you only got 10,000 miles.

A set of slotted rotors and sticky pads would help greatly.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:42 AM   #17
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@841J9 - That's 10,000 MORE miles from where it's at... and that's 42,000 miles. So, 52,000 or so miles on the pads.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:35 PM   #18
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If set up optimally the trailer brakes will actuate slightly before the car brakes thus "assisting" the car with it's braking. This will actually reduce the brake wear in the TV.

This assumes the trailer brakes and their operation have the size and power to perform at this level.

Does the Subaru rep understand the braking power and properties of your particular trailer. Probably not.

Actually this particular Subaru rep does indeed know the particulars of the trailer and its brakes.... actually tows more miles than me with a similar set up. They were actually very helpful with good factual information in regards to what I needed to add to the vehicle and not add when I first was setting it up to tow to safely handle the trailer.

The trailer brakes are the correct size and in good condition - actually replaced the whole assembly a couple of years ago as I was concerned that perhaps they were the reason for the first set of front brakes going faster then expected -although I was told at the time they didnt look all that bad & they did seem to work fine. The new ones have been rechecked and adjusted more than once since and work *real* well - can bring the car all on their own to a real fast stop with no need for the boost function on the controller. The trailer brakes have also proven that they work really well in a hairy situation so I am not concerned at all about their set up or ability to stop the trailer. The controller is a P2 and I am happy with it as well. Having had the trailers brakes checked and replaced and adjusted and rechecked a few times since in an attempt to figure out why the front brakes are wearing, at this point no good explanation for it beyond the fact I do drive daily and tow in a very hilly area and tow more than your average week-end camper (about 12,000 miles last year - maybe more) am inclined to write it off as one of life's mysteries ;-)
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Jim,

We're actually in the process. Returning to Seattle from Crater Lake to say goodby to our son and than heading east to Montana, Glacier Area, then south to Neveda's Ruby Mts for a wedding and east to Backus, MN the Scamp factory, probably around mid September and NH by Oct 1 or so.

A little hyefty pace for us but we have our annual physical in mid-Oct and always good to go as soon as possible after we return since our health is best then.

Really wishing you well with your Escape. Rease and Tammy were at the Oregon rally.
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@841J9 - That's 10,000 MORE miles from where it's at... and that's 42,000 miles. So, 52,000 or so miles on the pads.
Oops...

It was a rough morning.

Customers were being a real PITA.

A better set of brakes would still do some good. OEM brakes on non performance vehicles leave much to be desired.
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Oops...

It was a rough morning.

Customers were being a real PITA.
Customer's a PITA??? Gosh, MY customers are never like that...never...never, ever.... BWAAAHAHAHAH. In my dreams!

I feel your pain!

Off for Milwaukee Fairgrounds Campground tomorrow...
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Something I forgot to mention that came up while I was exploring why I seem to be getting less than expected mileage out of my current vehicles front brakes vs previous vehicles was traffic volumes. Have had two so called brake experts suggest that the problem may be more to do with increased traffic volume on my daily drives vs a brake issue. There feeling is that if you are driving in areas with high traffic stop and go traffic daily such as I do you are going to go through brakes way faster than someone who lives in a lower traffic volume area. One suggested that while I drive home from his shop I count the number of times I used my brakes. On reflection I appreciate that the traffic in my area has increased greatly over the past 5 years and even more so over 10 years so it may well be more of a contributing factor than I had previously considered.
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Mind if I but in with a question? Do the transmissions really hold up in the small SUVs? Do you drive with it in DRIVE?
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Mind if I but in with a question? Do the transmissions really hold up in the small SUVs? Do you drive with it in DRIVE?
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Yup, plain old "D" unless I'm driving somewhere where a specific gear and/or 4WD is needed.
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Mind if I but in with a question? Do the transmissions really hold up in the small SUVs? Do you drive with it in DRIVE?
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Yup they sure do! Yup I use D a lot - will kick it over to manual sport mode going up hills if it starts to search up and down for the right gear though and I will use manual mode if going down long slow hills as well so as not to ride the brake the whole way down.
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Clutch and Transmission

170,000 miles on our 2004 Honda CRV, same clutch, zero drive line problems. About 40,000 towing miles.
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My Highlander's brakes lasted just about 100K miles (I was surprised and pleased) even though it towed a trailer for about 85% of those miles. It's possible that they are larger brakes than on the Rav, though.

I do my towing with OD locked out.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:13 AM   #28
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My 2007 Sienna doesnt alow me to turn off overrdrive. I have to drive in 4th gear. my millage droped by literally 2/3 at 65 mi per. Now that I have sold the big boxy thing maybe I can get a smaller SUV to pull the Fiberglass, when I find the right one. Thanks for the info.
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