Trailer-Axel Modification - Need to Haul ATV - Fiberglass RV


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Old 05-31-2003, 12:49 PM   #1
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Trailer-Axel Modification - Need to Haul ATV

I plan to buy a 13 ft. Scamp/Casita whithin the next year and would like to modify the trailer/axel to accomodate one or two quad ATV's weighing about 400 lbs each. Call me crazy, but look at the attached photo, that is what got me thinking.

I don't want to spend a ton of money, but would not mind spending a reasonable amount to have a light weight camper ATV hauler. The one in the phote is about 4000 lbs. A 13 ft. Scamp and two quads would be right around 2000 lbs and I'd like to keep it under 2500. Weight distribution, tongue weight, etc all come into play and I don't know much about that.

Any suggestions, similiar experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Damien

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Old 05-31-2003, 12:57 PM   #2
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Hi Damien
Welcome to this forum.
I think you would have a big project going with that idea.A lot of engineering would have to take place.Maybe someone else on this board will have some ideas which may help.:wave
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Old 05-31-2003, 01:28 PM   #3
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Thanks Chester.

I don't necessarily want the exact same double axel set up as pictured, but am hoping there is some way to modify and accomodate at least one ATV.

Couple things I've thought of (keep in mind I don't know much about this). Could the axel and tongue be removed and the camper mounted on a different, longer flat bed trailer? Or replace the axel whith something that could handle more weight and lengthen the tongue to make space for an ATV in front of the camper, similiar to the picture, but the weight distribution and tongue weight would probably be all wrong then. :o
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Old 05-31-2003, 01:40 PM   #4
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Hi Damien
I am not sure what your frame would look like,but i would think a new frame beefed up would be way to go.

Go look at "A project begins"In the mods section and you will see my boler frame which I removed yesterday.Its pretty thin.

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Old 05-31-2003, 02:11 PM   #5
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Damien:

Well, ya ask for 'opinions' on this forum, then sometimes ya gotta duck........

Casita won't work because:

1. Not enough room for 2 quad ATVs.

2. A Single axle trailer is not enough (extra) carrying capacity for this use.

3. Modifing would ruin the resale, IF ya could do it.

They make 'toy hauler trailers' with drive-on rear doors, AC, kitchen, beds that fold up, etc.

Or, you could more easily, and cheaply, convert an enclosed motorcycle trailer than starting off with a camp trailer. :)
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Old 06-01-2003, 10:26 AM   #6
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Go For It!

The bottom line, if you want it, you can build it, and you will use it..go for it. I monitor three other "egg" forums, and the one thing I've notice, a bunch of folks want to "add" to the length of the frame, whether for bike racks, lockable boxes for storage, or the front for other "stuff." Surely, if you like it, other's will too. The only thing that's stopped me from adding on, is I don't want to change the way my egg tows. Now, if I could weld...it would be a different story. Some have made modifications that I wouldn't do, but I can appreciate it works for them (AC out the back window for instance). If you're like me, resale is the last thing I worry about. I plan on having my egg until the wheels fall off (and I do believe in preventative maintenance)! Since Scamp isn't making a motorhome, I've even considered purchasing a used 5th wheel and bolting that to a truck frame....hummmm, maybe next year?:inbox
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Old 06-01-2003, 12:13 PM   #7
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toy hauler

If ya want it, you can build it.......

...but when ya take it on a highway your dreamchild becomes a concern of public safety.

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from last nights tv program 'maximum eXposure'....

Here's a guy on his way to the golf course when he finds the road covered with water from a flash flood. He gets on the cel phone to call his wife and tell of his delima while videotaping the flood. Then he continues to drive thru the water, videotaping all the time.

The truck stalls, water pours in, darling wife sends help, the truck is totaled.

......oh well.......:)
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Old 06-02-2003, 02:48 AM   #8
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simple solutions to complex problems

There's actually a fairly straightforward way to pull the thing off.

Get a long flatbed, (utility type) trailer (17-20' should do it). Pull the wheels (and likely the axle) off the Scamp. Bolt the Scamp onto the back end of the utility trailer. If you get a wider trailer, the wheel wells will be less of a problem. You'll just have to make sure they don't block the Scamp's door. :) That'll leave you a slew of room (depending on how MUCH bigger the utility trailer is than the Scamp) for whatever you want AND you won't have to stress out the Scamp's frame and axle (which likely wouldn't handle the extra weight all that well I'm guessing). PLUS, you could always switch it back if you wanted to (after reattaching an axle and building a new tounge out front anyway...)


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Old 06-02-2003, 04:51 PM   #9
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I saw a guy at glamis sand dunes with a trailer done exactly like you are sugesting. He took a flat utility trailer and put a fiberglass trailer right on top of it. The trailer was at front end with the wheels and axle removed. It was a rear door model trailer (like a compact jr) with the door facing the rear. He had room for two quads and all of his gear. When the bikes where off the trailer it was like having a front porch to sit on. I spoke with him about it beacause I have the same problem two quads and only one truck bed and if I'm hauling the trailer can only take one bike. He said that it towed like a dream and has had no problems. Just picked up a hunter compact 2 and am thinking of doing this myself. Let me know which rout you go.
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I saw a similar rig that was a gooseneck trailer fitted with a big pickup camper on the gooseneck, two quads almost over the axles and plenty of room in the back. He had added storage bins under the camper where the sides of the pickup would normally be.

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