Trailer brakes in the real world?

[Darrell O]

So far I've been towing my Ventura (probably 1500 lbs) with a full-size Ford van and a basic 4-pin trailer connector.

When I repacked the bearings the Ventura brakes looked like they have hardly ever been applied - little or no wear on the shoes and drums.

I brought the van to a hitch and towing specialist to inquire about having a brake controller and extra hitch wiring installed, and when I told him the type and weight of trailer he said the trailer's too light and the brakes will keep locking up. In the end, he said I'll get frustrated and disconnect them like 99% of the people do.

Perhaps he has a point, because last year I asked the owner of a new 13' Scamp if he had brakes on theirs and he said yes but now wished he hadn't.

I suppose the usefulness of trailer brakes varies with the capacity of the tow vehicle. In my tug and trailer combination the tow vehicle is quite understressed.

What are the other opinions and experiences out there?

[Darwin Maring]

What he failed to tell you is that the controller lets you adjust the amount of breaking so the wheels will not lock up. It also gives you a manual way of applying the brakes.

Everybody has their opinion and after towing all sorts of campers and trailers for the past 50 years, here's mine.

I prefer brakes on the trailer because it helps stop sway, assists in stopping, comes in handy on slick pavement (When the Tow Vehicle stops you can manual apply the brakes so the camper does not try to pass your tow vehicle.)

[floyd]

Hook'em up... you'll like them. You already know how well your combo works without them, so I won't comment for fear of a wikilyching
If they are 7" brakes you won't need to worry about lockups even if you try, but they will really add to your towing pleasure, if they are 10" brakes, a good controller will eliminate the problems predicted.
Get a PRODIGY brake controller, once adjusted you should never feel any push again.

[Tim Wood]

Originally Posted by Darwin Maring

I prefer brakes on the trailer because it helps stop sway, assists in stopping, comes in handy on slick pavement (When the Tow Vehicle stops you can manual apply the brakes so the camper does not try to pass your tow vehicle.)

Yes me too

[Byron Kinnaman]

As with many things there's sometimes regulations that might be of concern. Here if you have electric brakes on your trailer you're required to have them operational. The size, weight of the trailer doesn't matter. If you get into an accident and the trailer brakes aren't operational it could be deemed your fault and your insurance could refuse to pay.
Good luck.

[Donna D.]

I think your hitch and tow specialist needs to go back to towing school.

Darwin gave you the correct solution.. a good controller which will allow no brakes to all brakes. You just set it for what you need and the instructions with the controller tell you now to do that. I use a Tekonska Prodigy P2 and don't leave home without it!

[ericw]

I have a 13' and agree it is a worthwhile investment especially as soon as any situation is not flat, ideal, and people act like too many people do. I use the prodigy also (newer model than some) and am also happy with it.

[BCDave]

If you are towing your 13 behind a Kenworth or similar, then brakes might be considered to be "optional" - otherwise, as has been said before, your under-dash controller can be adjusted to prevent lockup and you will be amazed at how much more secure and comfortable the towing experience is when the trailer has working brakes

[Darrell O]

Well, so far it appears that everybody's happy with how their trailer brakes operate.

For legal reasons, at least, I guess I should get these things connected. I saw Reese controllers on the wall at the local hitch and towing shop. Any other brands (and models) to recommend.

BTW, I wired in the four-pin harness, but after crawling around with a flashlight underneath the back of the van I see a sheathe of wire that dead-ends as well as an open connector. Is it likely that the prewiring was done at the factory?

Many thanks for all your opinions.

[BCDave]

While it MAY be possible that some pre-wiring was done from the factory, (depending on the year of your van) it will not be a lot of help unless there is also the pre-wiring harness under the dash for the controller to attach to

According to what may appear to be a consensus of users on here. the best controllers to look at are the Tekonsha prodigy series (the 2 and/or the 3)

I love my Prodigy 3, but I've never used the 2 (but i heard really good things about the Prodigy 2)

[Byron Kinnaman]

Prodigy 2 for me. Works great.

[Darrell O]

Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman

As with many things there's sometimes regulations that might be of concern. Here if you have electric brakes on your trailer you're required to have them operational. The size, weight of the trailer doesn't matter. If you get into an accident and the trailer brakes aren't operational it could be deemed your fault and your insurance could refuse to pay.
Good luck.

That's another thing I wonder about...does one's rig have to be compliant only for the state/province where it is licensed and registered, or, conforming to the laws wherever it happens to travel?

[Carol H]

Originally Posted by Donna D.

I think your hitch and tow specialist needs to go back to towing school.

Me too!

[Loren G. Hedahl]

Originally Posted by Darrell O

Well, so far it appears that everybody's happy with how their trailer brakes operate.

For legal reasons, at least, I guess I should get these things connected. I saw Reese controllers on the wall at the local hitch and towing shop. Any other brands (and models) to recommend.

BTW, I wired in the four-pin harness, but after crawling around with a flashlight underneath the back of the van I see a sheathe of wire that dead-ends as well as an open connector. Is it likely that the prewiring was done at the factory?

Many thanks for all your opinions.

Your money will be well spent acquiring the Prodigy vs the Reese brake controller. (Don't ask me how I know!)

[John_M]

I'm with Donna... You need a new hitch guy! If you have brakes, you should use them. They are well worth the cost of a controller and wiring.

[BCDave]

Were you going to E&H hitch? They used to be the best in the biz, but I have been hearing mixed reviews lately. When wife & I had a trailer biz, we always sent our customers to E&H (the outlet on 128th in Surrey) but I was not so happy with some work that was done by the Langley store a few years ago. I went back and they fixed it.

However, that said, they are also the ones who wired 3 of my pickups such that turning on the 4-way flashers resulted in hard trailer brake applications. (At the time, I did not know that this was wrong!)

[Darwin Maring]

Byron is correct. As with many things there's sometimes regulations that might be of concern.

Here in Virginia, if your trailer has brakes, it must be inspected each year and wear an inspection sticker.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by Darwin Maring

Byron is correct. As with many things there's sometimes regulations that might be of concern.

Here in Virginia, if your trailer has brakes, it must be inspected each year and wear an inspection sticker.

So, in the interest of safety, Virginia discourages brakes on trailers under 3000#?...Go figger.

[Cyndivg11]

Darrell- I totally get your humor! I have to say, while Im learning lots about my own FGRV, Im laughing reading everyones posts. I had no idea so many FGRV owners are unemployed comedians or alcoholics- no pun intended, search: " How long it takes to set up your camp" on the forums.

[Carol H]

Originally Posted by Darrell O

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LOL Darrel tread softly some of use grow up on the Island and although we may not still live there we do tend to stand up for it!