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Old 01-26-2010, 03:23 AM   #15
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If you are buying new, look at the manufacturer's website for towing capacities. If you are buying used, look here:

http://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?ID=42175

I don't think I would buy anything rated under 3500#. If you are looking at any car or truck, look in the owner's manual for the rating.

Tow packages sound nice, and I would probably buy one if available, and they probably do add to the life of the tv.

BTW we tow a 1700# Trillium with a 2000# rated Subaru Outback. We had the Outback.

Good luck.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:38 AM   #16
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

Any comments appreciated. Need to purchase a vehicle soon.

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Hi Dennis,

I tow our EggCamper with a 2002 Toyota Sienna (3.0 L V6). I already had the minivan so I added an aftermarket transmission cooler. I wouldn't tow without one. Keep in mind that the 2000# is dry weight. When you get packed for a trip the weight will go up. I love our EggCamper. It is very roomy with lots of opportunities for customizing storage (read this as adding weight). Some day I'm going to take ours to a weigh station and see what it really weighs, now that I've added a few shelves, draws and a new (better) mattress.

If I were buying a new TV, I'd definitely get the factory package on whatever vehicle I bought. Two or three years from now, you probably won't remember where the extra money went to add it in. But, you'll certainly remember what a new transmission costs.

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Old 02-13-2010, 04:57 AM   #17
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Thank you for all the helpful comments. We ended up purchasing a 2007 Honda Pilot with under 40,000mi through a Honda delarship. We had the dealership put on the transmission & power steering fluid coolers. A hitch company did the wiring and put on the hitch as well as the brake controller.

We are ready to roll! May try some winter camping in the next couple of weeks.





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Old 02-13-2010, 12:33 PM   #18
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:45 PM   #19
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

Any comments appreciated. Need to purchase a vehicle soon.

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Dennis,

I did a post on the Yahoo Scampers Forum earlier this month on a similar question about Honda Pilot as a tow vehicle. The load rating of my Pilot is 3500 lb. for regular trailers and 4500 lb. for boat trailers. I guess that boats and their trailers have a pointy end, this is the only difference I can see. Maybe the boat trailer has less wind resistance. The gas mileage does drop a couple MPG when towing my 2009 16' Scamp SD, but I think that is normal for every tow vehicle when towing a trailer.

I hope this information is helpful.

Don B.



This post was a reply to Bob Thomas's question at the Scampers forum --

Bob,



I'm towing a 2009 16' Standard Model Scamp SD ( no trailer AC ) with a 2005 4WD Honda Pilot V6. The pilot pulls the Scamp great. I have a little over 1500 miles on the trailer since I took delivery of it the first of June 2009. I had the OEM trailer package coolers installed at a local mechanic's shop and the after market receiver hitch & electrical wiring /electrical components installed at a local RV shop. This is pretty standard to making the Pilot tow ready.

When I weighted my Scamp SD with a tank of potable water plus every thing ready to go camping, it weighed 2540 lb. That was fine until I weighed each wheel, then WOW! The curbside was 1540 lb. & the highway side 1000 lb. The factory installed tire on the curbside was overloaded and it towed like it. At 45 MPH it started to sway and any faster it just got worse. I moved as much as I could over to the highway side of the trailer; it didn't change how the scamp towed. The potable water tank, hot water tank, and large refrigerator; all on the curbside of the trailer is the problem. This isn't taking in to account the crown of the road, which also shifts more weight to the curbside wheel. So I installed one friction type sway bar and went on a 1500-mile trip. The trailer worked the sway bar the hole trip. I could always feel the trailer's little sway-fidget

When I got back home from the trip the trailer got three new tires, rims, and metal valve stems. The replacement tires were Bias Ply ST 185/80D13 8 Ply rated at 1660 lb. Load capacity [at] 65 PSI air pressure and what little I've towed the trailer from the tire shop to home (7 miles and at a speed of 60 MPH for about 4 of the 7 miles) the trailer tows like it should; rock solid behind the tow vehicle.

In my opinion the Scamp Factory OEM tire at 1360 lb load capacity [at] 50 PSI air pressure is to light of a load rated tire for the 16' Standard Model Scamp SD to be towed safely on the highway when moderately loaded for camping.

My 1500-mile trip convinced me that I need to make one other modification to the Pilot. That was to be able to change the load carrying capacity of the rear springs while out on the road towing the trailer. I decided on air bags for inside the springs would work best for my needs. If you decide this modification is something that you would like to have on your Pilot then find a good mechanic's shop that also does wheel alignments. Because to put in the spring air bags there is some disassembly of the Pilots rear suspension and a " hole drilled in the upper spring supports for each of the air hoses to air up the bags. After reassembling the Pilot's independent rear suspension. The rear suspension needs to be realigned, so the vehicle's rear wheels will track with the front wheels again after its reassembly. This isn't a home mechanics modification!!!

This may be more information than you wanted to know at this point. I've towed lots of trailers over the years. All the RV trailers that I owned were stick built trailers, except for this 2009 Scamp.

It just takes a little tinkering and a little time to get the trailer and the tow vehicle to really work together while going down the road.

Hope this helps. The Honda Pilot has plenty of power to (even with the AC on in July) tow the scamp and it has worked out as a real good tow vehicle.

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