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Old 01-24-2010, 11:49 AM   #1
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

Any comments appreciated. Need to purchase a vehicle soon.

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Old 01-24-2010, 12:21 PM   #2
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We upgraded to an 07 Chevy Trailblazer last summer as we needed a higher towing capacity for our new 19 foot Escape. It came with the towing package, which I would recommend for towing all over 2000# trailers. It pulled like a charm and the gas mileage was around 17 miles per gallon. We had pulled our 17 foot Escape with a Toytoa Sienna with towing package and this vehicle is a nice tow vehicle also. Same gas mileage. It's nice having the extra storage space in the tow vehicle for golf clubs, etc.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:57 PM   #3
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I've got a GMC Envoy (Trailblazer twin) with the 5.3 V-8 and it is a wonderful tow vehicle. With out without a tow packge you should be very comfortable towing with a Trailblazer or Envoy.

I don't have much direct experience with a Honda, but if I were planning on towing with one I'd insist on a tow package.

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Old 01-24-2010, 03:13 PM   #4
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To me, it's like buying insurance. You most likely will never need it, but if it's required, then it was cheap at the price. Get the package whatever vehicle you buy.
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Old 01-24-2010, 03:24 PM   #5
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

Any comments appreciated. Need to purchase a vehicle soon.

Thanks!
I used to tow a 23' Award Travel trailer, 3600 lb weight with a 2006 Trailblazer,
with the inline 4.2 6 cylinder, and you never even felt it was there.
They pretty much all come with the tow package, from what I've seen and been told.
The gas mileage was pretty good as well, even under tow.
Would certainly recommend it as a comfortable, quiet tow vehicle.
They can also be had used at really great prices, considering their price when new.
Good luck in your search.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:06 PM   #6
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

Any comments appreciated. Need to purchase a vehicle soon.

Thanks!
If you choose the Honda Pilot , you will find it more convenient to get the Tow package since the Pilot's design has a rather unique hitch design which may be uncommon in the aftermarket, also the wiring will need an adapter box if you don't get at least four-plug with the vehicle. Overall, it may prove cost effective to buy the package and have it included in the warranty as well. don't forget to ask whether they have two levels of tow packages { four-plug or RV plug with provision for electric brakes and charge line}
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:34 PM   #7
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OK, EggCamper owners pipe in, isn't the 2000 pound weight, before ad on's? So realistically the trailer weighs a little more?


I agree with it's just a little added insurance. Besides the EggCamper is taller/wider than most glass. It's more about control of what your towing than whether it can be pulled by something less tow savvy. Cause sure you can go with out, but in reality do you want too?
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:17 PM   #8
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I wouldn't skimp on a tow vehicle, lotsa people do and it could cost you your life.
Pulling something is one thing, but swerving and emergency stops are another.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:56 PM   #9
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Are you looking for strictly a tow vehicle or something for everyday driving and towing occasionally? The decision on what to buy comes from two different camps. There are those that think everyday driving and fuel mileage is paramount... and others believe in buying more than you need to tow. Is the bottomline to be safe under tow and get the best fuel mileage you can when driving without the trailer? Are you looking to buy used? Something that will carry more than two people and maybe pets? There are a hundred-gazillion choices to look at, what is it exactly you're trying to accomplish?

Personally, I drive a truck. A Ford F-150. Bought it new. But, it's the only driveable vehicle I own, so it's my everyday vehicle along with what I use to tow my trailer. I'm also a homeowner, I haul plywood, firewood, barkdust, go to the dump and haul manure for my garden. So, my "mileage" may vary for my needs than your own....

Maybe you see the quandary in the answers you can receive?
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:30 PM   #10
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I can't give specific advice on any of the vehicles you mention, but as Robin said, you should probably be thinking of a considerably higher "all up" tow weight. I wouldn't be surprised to see you closer to 3,000# for real-world towing.

Just something to think about as you consider how close to a given vehicle's tow rating you are.

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Old 01-24-2010, 08:59 PM   #11
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We purchased an EggCamper (2000 lbs) last fall and have not used it. We are looking for a car to tow it. Is a trailer package necessary for that light of a trailer? Narrowed my search to 2007 Honda Pilots. A few do come with a trailer package at a higher price (radiator coolant & power steering accessary).
Also, how do Chevy Trailblazers compare?

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No matter what you buy for a tow vehicle get one with the tow package, especially if you can find a used one that hasn't been used for towing. A quick way to tell is to check the inside of the hitch receiver for wear. If a drawbar has been used then the factory paint will be gone and the inside of the receiver box will be rusty. Another hint is if the trailer connection wiring has been pulled from its hiding place behind the bumper. Many of the used vehicles on the market right now are lease returns. The dealers like the trailer towing packages on lease vehicles because they get a higher price when them after the lease expires.

There are usually other additions besides a transmission cooler and power steering fluid cooler in a tow package like a factory installed hitch and wiring for trailer lights and a brake controller. They also often have a little better shocks and sometimes traction control. The brake controller itself isn't usually included but the wiring is often in place which makes installing a controller a lot easier.

I noticed that Robin asked about the weight of the EggCamper. Those made before 2008 were rated for 2700 pounds gross and 2008 and later for 2500 pounds gross. Empty weight is about 1750 to 1775 with the usual accessories (Norcold refrigerator, A/C, hotplate, mattress and cushions) but with empty fresh and waste water tanks. My EggCamper kit version with no accessories weighed in at 1506 pounds when I picked it up.

Robin also noted that the EggCamper has more frontal area than other fiberglass rigs. That translates into a bit larger overall load and higher fuel consumption at higher speeds. If you keep the speed down when towing that won't be a problem though.

BTW - Congratulations on purchasing an EggCamper. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I'm guessing you have an all electric version since that seems to be what Jim is pushing at the moment.

Don't forget to change your camper type. You are still showing "none."

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Old 01-25-2010, 12:43 AM   #12
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The real bottom line, is, if your vehicle doesn't have a tow package, you will need sooner than later to make the modifications to adjust for the lack thereof.
Later mods tend to be more costly. In my opinion, buy a vehicle with the tow package installed from the get go.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:36 AM   #13
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I'd go with the tow package. I agree with all before you - eventually you'll need something from the package, and it provides a sort of insurance.

When we bought our Toyota Sienna, I didn't know WHAT we'd be pulling, but I knew eventually we'd be dragging something behind, so we got the tow package 170,000 miles before we ever picked up a trailer!


'Course you need to make sure YOUR manufacturer includes the actual tow equipment (receptacle anyone?). Toyota's tow package included the cooler and larger radiator, but I had to add the actual TOWING equipment later! (sheesh!)
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:18 AM   #14
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We tow our EggCamper with a V-6 S-10 Chevy (compact) pickup truck which didn't have a tow package. All we did was add a transmission cooler. Even without any tow package it is rated at 5600 lbs.
If your TV has anything close to minimal tow rating I'd go for the tow package, but I think it wouldn't be necessary if your tow rating has lots of room to spare.
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