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Old 02-03-2015, 11:20 AM   #29
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Thanks, Carol. There is going to be an RV show about 50 miles away in June, and I am leaning towards going back out to Madison the first 2 weeks in September, which would give me an opportunity to wander around the campground and talk to folks about their trailers and rigs. There is also a state park not far away from me that I may take a ride down to soon and check out the campground for trailers and folks to talk to.


And I will make sure to compare apples to apples when pricing trailers to make sure I get the best deal on the trailer and amenities that I want.


Just out of curiosity, does anyone tow their trailers with anything like a Jeep Wrangler or the new Cherokee that is based on the Dodge Dart frame?
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:57 PM   #30
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The problem with the Escape and all uni-body toe vehicles, is the trailer will transmit a lot of sounds into the passages compartment. You will hear the hitch banging and the ball bouncing. Body on frame like a pickup truck has rubber pucks between the frame and cab that removes the sounds from the hitch.

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Our Honda CRV was a uni-body car that we towed with for 7 years all over Canada and the USA. We drove a couple 1,000 miles of dirt roads and some horribly pot holed roads towing and never really noticed any particular transmitted noise beyond normal even after 250,000 miles. Uni-body seems strong enough.

In a sense the fiberglass trailer is a uni-body structure sitting on a frame as compared to stick trailers.

We have never had a WD hitch and have never felt that the front steering was light. We did try to have the shortest distance possible from rear axle to the ball, something that mitigates ball loads with respect to front axle lift.

As well we are low ball weight towers, typically around 8%. In 7 years we never experienced sway. I believe the key there was center loading the trailer, keeping weighty items near or over the axle.

We have purchased another uni-body vehicle, a 2014 6 cylinder Honda Odyssey. So far we average 19 mpg towing, covering about 2,500 miles

Today we took a trip thru central FL, non-interstate and averaged 33 mpg non-towing, amazing cylinder management.

Surprisingly the Odyssey gets better highway mpgs than our 4 cylinder CRV and 2 mpg less than the CRV's 21 mpg towing.
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:15 PM   #31
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Surprisingly the Odyssey gets better highway mpgs than our 4 cylinder CRV and 2 mpg less than the CRV's 21 mpg towing.
No wonder here. The more powerful the engine is, the lesser is the difference between empty and towing MPG. Here is my statistics towing Scamp 16 on flat Florida highways:

Mercury Grand Marquis 2001 4.6L V8 - 25MPG not towing, 17 MPG towing.

F150 2013 5.0L V8 - 21.5 MPG not towing, 17.5MPG when towing.
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:32 PM   #32
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No wonder here. The more powerful the engine is, the lesser is the difference between empty and towing MPG. Here is my statistics towing Scamp 16 on flat Florida highways:
Isn't adding "flat" when describing Florida highways sorta "Captioning the Obvious"? LOL
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:41 PM   #33
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There are hilly parts too. For example stretch of I-75 between Tampa and Ocala.
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:04 PM   #34
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There are hilly parts too. For example stretch of I-75 between Tampa and Ocala.
Yeah, both of them...

...but they really foul up traffic because most Floridians have never changed lanes before.

(And I are one!)
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:10 PM   #35
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There are a couple overpasses, and bridges....


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Old 02-03-2015, 05:33 PM   #36
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:10 PM   #37
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There are three fiberglass manufacturers in the south. Casita is made in Texas, Lil Snoozy is made in South Carolina, and Parkliner in North Carolina. While all manufacturers will connect you with an owner, a factory visit might be better. Of the three, Casita is the oldest and has a large owner base. It also has it's own forum. Happy hunting. Raz
And don't forget Oliver in TN.
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:21 PM   #38
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The interior components used in Scamps, Casitas and such are pretty much common to the RV industry. Same with the axle. Easy to get worked on at any RV place. The chance of needing warranty work done on the fiberglass body itself is fairly remote.
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No wonder here. The more powerful the engine is, the lesser is the difference between empty and towing MPG. Here is my statistics towing Scamp 16 on flat Florida highways:

Mercury Grand Marquis 2001 4.6L V8 - 25MPG not towing, 17 MPG towing.

F150 2013 5.0L V8 - 21.5 MPG not towing, 17.5MPG when towing.
The difference between towing and not towing with the Odyssey is about 16 miles per gallon. We get 19 mpg towing and 35 mpg not towing.

With our Honda CRV we got 21 mpg towing and 30 mpg not towing for a difference of 9 miles per gallon.

The Odyssey is a much larger vehicle, heavier and wider yet it's non towing mileage is better around town and shockingly good on the highway. On Interstate trips we have averaged 36 mpg. This is because of the 6 speed transmission and the fact that on the highway the engine is mostly running on only 3 or 4 of it's 6 cylinders.

The Odyssey's 'stuff' hauling ability is amazing, 4x8 sheets of plywood with the rear hatched closed and....
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The difference between towing and not towing with the Odyssey is about 16 miles per gallon. We get 19 mpg towing and 35 mpg not towing.
Odyssey's variable cylinders shut off engine is a different story. Consider you use 2 different engines, 3 cylinders while not towing and 6 cyls when towing. I wonder why variable cylinders shut off is not a common design standard for automakers nowdays.

Most of ford v8 engines can temporary run without coolant for 15 years already. Computer turns half of cylinders off to ventilate and cool the engine. I can't understand why ford engineers did not implement cylinder shut off to reduce fuel consumption.
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Sergey,

Though we knew the Odyssey had cylinder management, we never expected to get such great highway mileage. Generally in 'flat Florida' we're mostly running on 3 and 4 cylinders. What amazes me is that the cylinder switching process is virtually silent and when you step on it to pass, the engine leaps.
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