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Old 05-29-2015, 10:11 AM   #15
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NO, NO, NO

[QUOTE=trumpetguy;525588]Don't rely on the owners manual for towing limits. There will be a decal near your hitch receiver that lists the hitch limits with and without WDH. You may need to get on the ground and look up but it will be there. I was surprised to learn how much the hitch specifications differed from the ones listed in my owners manual. I do use the Anderson hitch with my Oliver 23.5, but it is over kill.


PLEASE.... NOT TRUE

The sticker on the hitch is the rating for the hitch, not the vehicle to which it is attached, even on factory installed hitches.

As in the example I have offered before...

On my Chevy Blazer the hitch capacity sticker by GM is labeled as being 3000 lbs. direct and 6000 lbs. with a WDH.

But, the owners manual clearly states 8 different towing capacities, from as low as 2000lbs to as high as 5700 lbs., based on the body, transmission, driveline and other options, yet all have the same hitch installed by the factory. And BTW: all have the same engine.

If you look at trailer hitch ratings in catalog listings they are almost always based on the hitch class, not on the capacity of the vehicle that they fit.

For towing limits, always refer to the owners manual for the specific vehicle you are using.

That said, as it is possible to install a hitch with a lower capacity than the vehicles towing capacity, in that case the lower number always rules.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:20 AM   #16
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Don't rely on the owners manual for towing limits. There will be a decal near your hitch receiver that lists the hitch limits with and without WDH.
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David,

That's only half true!
It depends if it's a factory installed or aftermarket.
The aftermarket one will say something to the effect of "not to exceed factory limits".

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Old 05-29-2015, 10:22 AM   #17
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As usual there are opinions on every subject. Believe what you wish, but there was a long dialogue about hitch limits over on the Oliver forum. I actually called the Chevrolet help line and was told to rely on the label at the hitch...not the owners manual.


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As usual there are opinions on every subject. Believe what you wish, but there was a long dialogue about hitch limits over on the Oliver forum. I actually called the Chevrolet help line and was told to rely on the label at the hitch...not the owners manual.


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This just goes to prove that you can find the answer you want to almost any question, if you look long enough for it....

I am afraid that your are a party of very, very few to choose to ignore the towing values in the manual for a specific vehicle, over a hitch sticker, especially when they differ as much as the example I have in front of me and have cited. I don't think that GM filled an entire page in the owners manual with different towing specifications and values when they could have just said "Look at the sticker on the hitch" > NOT

Page 4-53, "Weight of the trailer" in my owners manual clearly states:
"The following charts shows how much your trailer can weigh, based on your vehicle model and options"

While you might have gotten that incorrect answer once from a GM rep, I doubt if you would get it again and, if you do, get a name and we will get that employee re-educated before it lead to an accident, injury or even death.

Can you in all honesty tell someone to put a 700 lb. hitch load on a vehicle that is rated to no more than 200 lbs. hitch weight?

BUT, failing that, ask two other somewhat disinterested persons for their "opinion" about ignoring specifications in the owners manual, your insurance agent and your attorney.

What's shown in the owners manual isn't opinion, it's fact, and in court, in a liability suit, will be seen as the letter of the law if ignored.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:43 AM   #19
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i'm done here.


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Old 05-29-2015, 12:25 PM   #20
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About the same range of towing limits applies for the 2011 Avalanche.
Depending on model and equipment, the maximum towing limit is between 4900 lbs. and 8100 lbs. per page 9-77 of the Owners Manual:
https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...che_owners.pdf
As this horse appears to be dead, I'm getting off...
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:14 PM   #21
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Sway control is usually used to cover up improper loading & balance issues.

You want 10-15% of the trailer weight resting on the hitch. The trailer frame should be level when hitched up on level ground (get an adjustable drop hitch or the right sized one). Also put weight as low as possible & as close to the axle as possible. The further from the axle weight is the more leverage it has to whip things around like a pendulum.

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What's shown in the owners manual isn't opinion, it's fact, and in court, in a liability suit, will be seen as the letter of the law if ignored.
Oh boy, here we go again. Wasn't it the Toyota manual that states not tow a trailer over 45 MPH. FTLOP!
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Nope, that's not at all what the discussion was about.
To my knowledge, this was the first time that the suggestion to accept hitch label specifications, over owners manual specifications, has ever been made on this site. That was the discussion.
And what one Toyota manual might say isn't a guide for others to follow, that's a Toyota issue, that only certain Toyota owners might need to deal with.
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Wow, didn't mean to start a food fight :-). Seeing as I'm a newbie and a woman who has never towed anything I just got the whole magilla and I haven't yet towed it, in fact, I can't quite remember how all the parts fit together. I have a lot to learn.
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Not to worry, these sub discussions seem to be thrown in when least expected. It sometimes seems more like some are talking in code rather than saying what they want to say..... LOL
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Wow, didn't mean to start a food fight :-). Seeing as I'm a newbie and a woman who has never towed anything I just got the whole magilla and I haven't yet towed it, in fact, I can't quite remember how all the parts fit together. I have a lot to learn.

The first thing to learn is that any thread about weight distributing hitches, towing capacities or recommended tow vehicles inevitably devolves into an argument. It shouldn't, but it does.

That's ok. There are other threads.


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Wow, didn't mean to start a food fight :-). Seeing as I'm a newbie and a woman who has never towed anything I just got the whole magilla and I haven't yet towed it, in fact, I can't quite remember how all the parts fit together. I have a lot to learn.
No food fight Jen, some posts just go sideways. Everyone was a newbie at one time. Some started towing very young, some older. It's really not rocket science just a lot of common sense. As far as being a woman, check the names of some of the posters here with great info, knowledge and experience. We all learn something from everybody. Gee, a newbie posted something a while back that I learned from them and I've been towing for 50 years. You'll be fine, you're asking good questions.
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Thanks, Dave. I bought Eileen's guide so will read that soon.


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