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Old 03-26-2013, 09:27 PM   #29
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Hmm... maybe I should have highlighted this key part when I said it five posts earlier...
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WD hitches seem to be one of the more mis-understood devices in trailering !
For those who would like to read some on them, there is a good 'sticky' over on RV net written by Ron Gratz that explains it all very well. Honestly, once a person has used one, and have gone thru the process of setting it up, they really are an elegant, and simple device that is easy to understand. Towing a given trailer without WD, and then followed by driving the same rig with one really gives the driver a very clear understanding of the how and why of it all.
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I'm now lost. I wasn't taking a shot at you Brian. It's just that I agreed with Francesca for once. That "The air bags just give support for the extra weight at the point of origin".
They don't transfer any weight to other axles ( supports ).
Do we agree, or am I still in the dark?
We do agree on that part!
Sorry, I was getting a bit touchy about post length...
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The other advantage of using a WDH is, by it's nature added stability by firming up the connection. Some like the Reese Dual Cam have built in anti sway cams.
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I'm looking for advice on what size of weight distribution hitch I should use. I have a 1979 17' Bigfoot travel trailer (aprox 2500 lbs loaded ) with a tongue weight of around 300 lbs, my tow vehicle is a 2005 Ford Freestar Limited 4.2L with around 300 lbs in the back.
Reese Light-Duty Weight Distribution System
You need to match the WDH capacity to your trailer's tongue weight, or come as close to it as you can. A Light Duty WDH system is for tongue weights of 400 pounds and below.

Normal Duty WDH equipment starts at 600 pound tongue weight/6000 pound total trailer weight, and go up to 1000 pound tongue weight/10,000 pound total trailer weight. That is way too much for your combination, and you risk putting too much leverage on the Ford's undercarriage which could damage it.
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To the original poster, determining the "size" of the WD hitch is mostly down to choosing the correct load rated bars for the tongue weight you are dealing with. The only true way to know your tongue weight, is to use scales. A pretty good bet is, "it's heavier than you think it is" !! The scales tell all.

You want the "correct" weight bars. You don't want them too stiff, as they can make for too stiff of a ride, but you don't want them too light, because they then would not be able to correctly restore weight.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that with what you are talking about, if you were to use a BlueOx, then 550 pound bars would probably be correct....but again, you really need to know what the loaded tongue weight of your trailer is, as it sits ready to roll out your driveway to go camping.
Regarding other brands of hitches, you would have to do the research on them to see what weight rated bars are available.
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WD hitches seem to be one of the more mis-understood devices in trailering !
I agree!

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For those who would like to read some on them, there is a good 'sticky' over on RV net written by Ron Gratz that explains it all very well.
Yes, Ron's explanation is priceless, but as we have found in previous discussions, this is an enormous can of worms. That RV.net discussion - like earlier discussions here - contains some wildly incorrect statements by people who have repeated them even after others - such as Ron - have patiently and clearly explained the facts. That thread - assuming we're talking about the same one - is very long and can be very confusing.

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Honestly, once a person has used one, and have gone thru the process of setting it up, they really are an elegant, and simple device that is easy to understand.
Ideally, yes, but I have read posts by people who do use WD and apparently have no clue how they work... some even stridently declare (including in this forum) that they do something that they don't. Not everyone's strengths and ability to understand lie in the same areas.
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The Freestar has a proven track record as a TV. When set up to tow good sized trailers they need the receiver reinforced.
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Tom, the link was very useful Thank you very much Tom and all the other posters, thank you all very much for taking the time to help me with this question, much thanks
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You could replace the rear springs with I-beams from a high-rise office building and it wouldn't sag, but the ride would be really lousy.
Is there a particular brand of I-beam from a high-rise office building that you can recommend?

Do the high-rise office buildings not need their I-beams any more, or is this the modern equivalent of stealing lead from church roofs?
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Is there a particular brand of I-beam from a high-rise office building that you can recommend?
My preference is Acme brand, though the Regal-I brand is good, too.

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Do the high-rise office buildings not need their I-beams any more, or is this the modern equivalent of stealing lead from church roofs?
Yes, it turns out that like our own appendix, there are certain parts in an office building that were never really necessary. This includes all I beams above the top floor.
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Not included in the weight math was the weight of a W/D hitch itself vs. a simple drawbar. The w/d hitch and tension bars used with the kids Coleman weighs almost 80 lbs. by itself. Not a biggie on the Yukon Denali, but something to consider on a FreeStar.
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