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Old 10-30-2013, 07:09 AM   #29
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Barbie... I too like those BMW sport wagons. The BMW SUV's X1, X3, and X5 have received rave reviews as TV's plus they are so much fun to drive.

If you like domestic wagons the Dodge Magnum is very capable too.

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Does anyone know about how much an empty Trillium 4500 actually weighs???? Real world please, not specifications.
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Does anyone know about how much an empty Trillium 4500 actually weighs???? Real world please, not specifications.
Nope no dry weights (which as we all know dont mean much) but a loaded one on the Trailer Weights in the Real World thread has one weigh in at 1974lbs. That trailer *may* have been loaded pretty light as there is also a 13' Trillium on the list that weighed in only 135lbs less. Have a camping buddy that had a 4500 Trillium and they indicated theirs weight in at about 2200-2300lbs loaded for camping but with no water.
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Trailer Weights

It's obvious from the Trailer Weight List, for a specific model weight can range significantly, easily varing by 400lbs, tongues weights are in the same class, easily varying by 100 lbs or more.

Once beyond the manufacture's build weight, the owner's need for stuff and the type of stuff significntly defines trailer weight.

Since you have purchased an unpacked trailer it would be interesting to take it to a scales and weigh it. I know some Canadian provinces have road side scales where you can self weigh. Weighing an empty trailer would be a very good starting point.

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Nope no dry weights (which as we all know dont mean much) but a loaded one on the Trailer Weights in the Real World thread has one weigh in at 1974lbs. That trailer *may* have been loaded pretty light as there is also a 13' Trillium on the list that weighed in only 135lbs less. Have a camping buddy that had a 4500 Trillium and they indicated theirs weight in at about 2200-2300lbs loaded for camping but with no water.
The factory says that the 1300 is 1500 lb, and the 4500 is 1700 lb. So, a 135 lb difference between the 1300 and 4500 is not too far out of line.

I would say 2500 lb would be a safe estimate for the loaded weight, but with the five kids, we travel kinda heavy.
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The factory says that the 1300 is 1500 lb, and the 4500 is 1700 lb. So, a 135 lb difference between the 1300 and 4500 is not too far out of line.

I would say 2500 lb would be a safe estimate for the loaded weight, but with the five kids, we travel kinda heavy.
I think David by mentioning the 5 kids you have hit on a point that many looking at what their tow specs are dont consider. They forget to add in the weight of what they are carrying in their vehicle to come up with what they may be over in regards to their total weight specs.
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We bought a 2013 Escape recently and while we have yet to find out mpg while towing, now that it has a few miles on it (4,000), it does get 30 mpg on a long trip. The one we bought is the ecoboost version, a 2L motor with a turbocharger. It has plenty of power. We got the factory tow package which allows us to tow 3500#s, and handle a 350# tongue weight, more than sufficient for our ParkLiner. My only complaint is that the factory tow package only comes with a 4 pole flat trailer connector, so a 7 pin RV plug has to be wired in. It can be done, but it's no piece of cake like my plug and play F-150 was!

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It's obvious from the Trailer Weight List, for a specific model weight can range significantly, easily varing by 400lbs, tongues weights are in the same class, easily varying by 100 lbs or more.

Once beyond the manufacture's build weight, the owner's need for stuff and the type of stuff significntly defines trailer weight.

Since you have purchased an unpacked trailer it would be interesting to take it to a scales and weigh it. I know some Canadian provinces have road side scales where you can self weigh. Weighing an empty trailer would be a very good starting point.

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I don't think that he OP has any kind of a TV right now. But it sounds from here that a 2000-2400 limit TV should d be on the safe side, but more is always better
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At the worse, we'll end up with a beautiful family wagon!
Or you could be footing the bill for a warranty repair after the service manager looks down and sees a Class II or higher hitch on a car that based on its tow cap shouldnt need anything more than a Class I hitch
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Or you could be footing the bill for a warranty repair after the service manager looks down and sees a Class II or higher hitch on a car that based on its tow cap shouldnt need anything more than a Class I hitch
But, if your Trillium 4500 has the factory 1-7/8 ball coupler, then you could use the class 1 hitch, and no one would be the wiser. If you have the factory axle, it is rated a 2000 lb. So if you load it up to what I do, then you would be over the capacity by about 25%. That is why I upgraded.

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But, if your Trillium 4500 has the factory 1-7/8 ball coupler, then you could use the class 1 hitch, and no one would be the wiser. If you have the factory axle, it is rated a 2000 lb. So if you load it up to what I do, then you would be over the capacity by about 25%. That is why I upgraded.

Increasing the carrying capacity of a Trillium
Seriously??? - so what you are saying is that the Trillium 4500 on the Real World Weights list at 1974lbs is only 25lbs under its original axle rating?? and my friends at 22/2300lb is a couple of hundred over

I dont know about you but dont think I would feel real comfortable not just with the trailer being that close or over the axle weight itself but putting a class I hitch on the tug that itself is only good for 2000lbs...

As far as no one being the wiser on a class I vs Class II hitch just because it has a 1 7/8 ball - just call me a skeptic on that point - there some pretty visible differences between a class I and class II hitch or at least the ones I have seen
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Seriously. When built, the Trillium 4500 had a 2000 lb axle, and coupler. I was so concerned about this that I had the trailer upgraded, since I was pretty sure I was going to go over that.

I suspect that this was a marketing decision. Any vehicle with a class 1 hitch could be used to tow it.

It is clear that every 4500 out there runs overloaded. It is worth noting that every 4500 I have bought, (3) has the original axle, and they seem OK.

My remark about the 1-7/8 ball was meant to say that a class 1 hitch, which max out at 1-7/8, could be used. My nephew, who has a class 1 hitch on his Intrepid, towed my 4500 back from Ontario this summer. It was empty.
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My nephew, who has a class 1 hitch on his Intrepid, towed my 4500 back from Ontario this summer. It was empty.
Those Intrepid's with the 3.5L V6 were great TV's when set up right. We saw many in these parts towing TT's.
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Or you could be footing the bill for a warranty repair after the service manager looks down and sees a Class II or higher hitch on a car that based on its tow cap shouldnt need anything more than a Class I hitch
Never heard of that happening.

One of the reasons we have a 2" receiver on our vehicles is to accommodate the robust 2" draw bar bike racks. Had a bad experience once with the 1 1/4" bar breaking with just 50lbs of bikes on it.
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