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Old 03-15-2008, 11:18 PM   #43
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Read this site. Tow capacity 1000lbs.
http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WW...v104040e%2ehtml
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thanks for the info. I think i'm leaning towards a toyota avalon now but i need to verify that a tow package can be added w/o any difficulty. Ity seems comparable to the sienna in towing capacity but with better mileage and the fact that i wont have to drive a big honkin van or SUV Has anyone ever towed with an avalon? Has anyone ever heard of anything good/bad about towing with a sedan type (specifically the avalon) Thanks for all the help
Sometimes a tow package can't be added aftermarket -- Depends on what's in the tow package beyond a receiver and a transmission cooler. Might be transmission or differential gearing, for example.
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Sometimes a tow package can't be added aftermarket -- Depends on what's in the tow package beyond a receiver and a transmission cooler. Might be transmission or differential gearing, for example.
I was flirting with the Honda Ridgeline this weekend. It won't work for me 'cause apparently with the full-time 4WD they can't be towed behind a motorhome, which is one of the duties of my Tundra. I was looking at it for several reasons; first it's a low-emissions vehicle which my Tundra fails miserably at. Second, it's a true four-door, and third they have a cabin air filter which I've found to be amazingly useful here in farm country in our Civic.

Anyway, the tow package comes on all of the Ridgelines (except for the hitch which is stock on the RTX) and consists of a tranny cooler, heavy-duty cooling, and a power steering fluid cooler. They are also pre-wired. I thought the power-steering cooler was an interesting item I'd not considered would be part of a towing package.

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Old 03-16-2008, 10:15 AM   #46
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Read this site. Tow capacity 1000lbs.
http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WW...v104040e%2ehtml
I dont get this http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WW...%2fintro%2ehtml (i hope that comes out as a link) Does this mean that the avalon can tow? I couldnt find any tow rating on that site, but it did list the types of hitches (not that means anything to me) on msn it said the avalon had a standard tow rating of 2000lbs, and a little higher max. Of course i was looking at an earlier year, maybe that had something to do with it.
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I followed your link and it still says 1000lb tow rating.
Follow link and go to Capacities and it shows it there.
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Old 03-16-2008, 10:57 AM   #48
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S = Standard O = Option - = Not Available
XLS

MECHANICAL
Engine 3.5 Litre Engine, 6-Cylinder, Aluminum Alloy Block, DOHC, Dual VVT-i Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence on both Intake and Exhaust Cams, Electronic Throttle Control System with Intelligence (ETCS-i), Acoustic Control Induction System (ACIS), Tier 2 Bin 5 Emissions Rating, Stainless Steel Exhaust System
Compression Ratio 10.8:1
Horsepower hp (kW) 268 (200) @ 6,200 rpm
Torque lb.ft. (N.m.) 248 (336) @ 4,700 rpm
Suspension Front: Macpherson Gas Struts, Coil Springs, Stabilizer Bar
Rear: Macpherson Gas Struts, Multi-link Rear Control Arms, Coil Springs, Stabilizer Bar
Drivetrain Front Wheel Drive, Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC)
Transmission 6-Speed, Automatic, Super Electronically Controlled Transmission (Super ECT), Sequential Multi-Mode Shifter, Lock Up Torque Converter, Transmission Cooler
Brakes Antilock Braking System (ABS), Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD), Brake Assist (BA), Front Ventilated Disc Brakes, Rear Discs
Steering Power Steering
Tires P215/55R17 Tires, Full Size Spare Tire with Alloy Wheel




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DIMENSIONS mm (in.)
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Width 1,850 (72.8)
Height 1,470 (57.9)
Wheelbase 2,820 (111.0)
Tread: Front / Rear 1,580 (62.2) / 1,565 (61.6)
Ground Clearance 135 (5.3)
Headroom: Front / Rear 986 (38.8) / 953 (37.5)
Legroom: Front / Rear 1,049 (41.3) / 1,037 (40.8)
Shoulder Room: Front / Rear 1,509.8 (59.4) / 1,479.2 (58.2)




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CAPACITY
Gross Vehicle Weight kg (lbs) 2,070 (4,565)
Curb Weight kg (lbs) 1,618 (3,567)
Seating Capacity 5
Towing Capacity kg (lbs) 454 (1,000)
Cargo Capacity m3 (cu.ft.) .408 (14.4)
Coefficient of Drag (cd.) 0.291
Fuel Capacity litres (gal) 70 (15.4)
Fuel Consumption Rating*
City/Highway L /100 km (mpg) 10.7 (27) / 7.0 (40)
* These estimates are based on the Government of Canada's approved criteria and testing methods. The actual fuel consumption of this vehicle may vary. Refer to the Government of Canada publication EnerGuide Fuel Consumption Guide..





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I don't even see a towing package or tow capacity offered for the '08 Avalon on the US Toyota site.

I'd pass on the Avalon as a tow vehicle.

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Old 03-16-2008, 01:18 PM   #50
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CAPACITY
Gross Vehicle Weight kg (lbs) 2,070 (4,565)
Curb Weight kg (lbs) 1,618 (3,567)
Seating Capacity 5
Towing Capacity kg (lbs) 454 (1,000)
Cargo Capacity m3 (cu.ft.) .408 (14.4)
Coefficient of Drag (cd.) 0.291
Fuel Capacity litres (gal) 70 (15.4)
Fuel Consumption Rating*
City/Highway L /100 km (mpg) 10.7 (27) / 7.0 (40)
* These estimates are based on the Government of Canada's approved criteria and testing methods. The actual fuel consumption of this vehicle may vary. Refer to the Government of Canada publication EnerGuide Fuel Consumption Guide..





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Wow! Everyone is such a great source of info. Thanks. I think i will phone toyota b/c the site i have been researching cars on says the 99 has a 2000lb standard tow capacity. If it is that incorrect that would be a real drag b/c then i will have to start checking specs all over again b/c the site obviously has inaccurate info All i want is to tow without driving some huge gas guzzler. Oh, and not have to pay a fortune either. Maybe i'm in denial. If so it will eventually break and maybe then i'll buy a hummer. (no offence to any hummer owners)
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Anyway, the tow package comes on all of the Ridgelines (except for the hitch which is stock on the RTX) and consists of a tranny cooler, heavy-duty cooling, and a power steering fluid cooler. They are also pre-wired. I thought the power-steering cooler was an interesting item I'd not considered would be part of a towing package.
My 98 Ranger has a towing package and a power steering cooler, which I presume doesn't come on standard truck. I also have a 'camper' relay in system that deals with power to the trailer lights so the truck light power is constant, plus there was a place in wiring to connect a Flat-4 connector with no fuss.

Tow package may also include suspension upgrades, as well as the differential ratio change. And place in cab harness to plug in a brake control. Some bigger trucks even come with a brake control installed and the brake wire and charging wire already connected to a 7-pin connector.

Depends on manf and I've found it difficult to find out what's actually in a tow package for a particular vehicle.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:01 PM   #52
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As a wise member on this forum said, choose your tow vehicle, then choose your trailer.

We currently have a 1991 Toyota 4x4 extended cab with 330,000km and still going strong. However, it's got serious Toy cancer (rust) and I don't think it's worth putting a lot of money into it tp bondo it together. So when we started looking at getting a trailer I first examined what I needed for a future vehicle - good on gas, 4x4 for our somewhat snowy winters and a steep driveway, 4 doors so the kids don't battle getting out, reasonable cargo room.

What my wife and I would REALLY like is a 2001-2004 crew cab Toyota 4x4 but the gas consumption is way too high for us with the coming gas crunch. So I decided to look at small SUV's and cars. No 4cylinder SUV's that I could find would pull more then 1000-1500lbs. However, one vehicle that kept coming up was Subaru Outback's or Foresters. Reasonable on Gas, will pull 2400lbs and a number of members on this Forum pulling 13-15 foot trailers with them. Every friend that has one rave like it's a Toyota. They are expensive so we are looking for a 2003-2004 off lease. Now that we have picked a car we now know that a 13 foot trailer is for us.... if I could just get hold of one =)
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:26 PM   #53
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When i had my Rav4 and 13ft Trill, towing was not to bad. When Tow Vehical is loaded with 2 Adults and a couple of kids, things change. My Trill weighted 1950lbs loaded for camping. That included water. I had roughly 1500lbs to play with. I , myself like a good margin of error. My extra tow capacity was needed more than once. I think its better to have more tow capacity than be on the boarder line.
My tow capacity was 3500lbs with Rav 4.
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As a wise member on this forum said, choose your tow vehicle, then choose your trailer.

We currently have a 1991 Toyota 4x4 extended cab with 330,000km and still going strong. However, it's got serious Toy cancer (rust) and I don't think it's worth putting a lot of money into it tp bondo it together. So when we started looking at getting a trailer I first examined what I needed for a future vehicle - good on gas, 4x4 for our somewhat snowy winters and a steep driveway, 4 doors so the kids don't battle getting out, reasonable cargo room.

What my wife and I would REALLY like is a 2001-2004 crew cab Toyota 4x4 but the gas consumption is way too high for us with the coming gas crunch. So I decided to look at small SUV's and cars. No 4cylinder SUV's that I could find would pull more then 1000-1500lbs. However, one vehicle that kept coming up was Subaru Outback's or Foresters. Reasonable on Gas, will pull 2400lbs and a number of members on this Forum pulling 13-15 foot trailers with them. Every friend that has one rave like it's a Toyota. They are expensive so we are looking for a 2003-2004 off lease. Now that we have picked a car we now know that a 13 foot trailer is for us.... if I could just get hold of one =)
I thought I saw a few for sale on the canadian (at least i think it's a canadian) boler site. I cant be positive though b/c i only saw out of the corner of my eye b/c i'm not shopping for one. Hope it helps http://www.geocities.com/bolerama/
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Thanks Cyndi!

Getting Geeky: What I have done (and which works quite well) is search for trillium / boler on the 4 big sites (craigslist, usedeverywhere, kijiji and buysell.com) in British Columbia using different locations near to me (Nanaimo, Victoria, Vancouver). I opened each search in a tab in Firefox (IE7 or Opera will do this too). I then book marked all the tabs into one tab folder. Now all I need to do is open the one tab folder and all the sites are searched for each location and ready for quick perusal. I was going to write some code to run a search nightly on these sites and email the results but as I get older that kind of stuff becomes less fun to program ... are my days as a programmer numbered I wonder=(

There are 2 Trilliums in Vancouver I am investigating this week. Decided on a Trillium for sure due to the height inside, I can just stand barefooted in one, the Boler and Scamp are knee benders for me.

Back onto the topic: Chester, what year Rav4 did you have. I know the new 2007 V6 models will pull that much but I didn't think the 4cyl's did. I like the Rav4's but looking at my vehicle research I realize I just checked the CRV's for pull, not the Rav4's.
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:33 PM   #56
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Hi Booker
My Rav4 was a 2007---V6----3500lb tow rating.
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