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Old 07-20-2015, 08:56 PM   #15
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Awd, instead of fwd..there will be times you wish you had power to the rear wheels

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Eight years with my front wheel drive Escape and never missed driving the rear tires yet. All wheel drive will be a little easier on tires when towing than front wheel only, but the difference will never pay for itself in tire wear.
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Old 07-21-2015, 05:08 AM   #16
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Eight years with my front wheel drive Escape and never missed driving the rear tires yet.
We made out OK with the FWD Nissan Van too. Although I recall once when towing the pop up (no WDH) that in a panic stop the front wheels of the van started to locked up and the anti locks kicked in. Towing the pop up through a Buffalo snow storm the FWD van was fine. We had Michelin X all season tires on the van.

With the van when the 23' was connected, and using the WDH all went well too. No traction or braking issues. The drive train weight on the drive wheels of the van is a good thing especially when using a WDH.

Note our lighter, RWD car has less traction when towing than the heavier FWD van...... or maybe its just the extra 120HP that gets the rear wheels searching for traction on loose surfaces. :7)

No doubt AWD has an advantage.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:26 AM   #17
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Front Wheel Drive

I'm no car expert. We've towed only with front wheel drive. Our Honda CRV and our Honda Odyssey are both essentially front wheel drive vehicles.

We've towed extensively on dirt roads with numerous steep slopes and have had few wheel spin issues, with those few lasting more than a few seconds.

The CRV had no stability control (or anti-lock brakes). The Odyssey does have stability control.

I would expect one advantage of front wheel drive is more of the weight is over the front wheels while some rear wheel drive vehicles are light in the rear. I have never owned a truck but I have seen many people loading their truck beds with weight in winter, Is this still true..I don't know.

Our CRV had on demand rear wheel drive. In 10 years of driving I only recall the rear wheels kicking in twice, neither while towing. In both cases I forced it by creating wheel slip to pull us through a situation.

Like many RVers, in severe weather, particularly heavy rain, snow or blowing sand we pull over. We don't drive in bad weather.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:41 AM   #18
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Our 2008 Toyota 4Runner V6 is an awesome TV, it is very comfortable, great brakes and adequate power for our Escape 19. In 2016 (2017 model year) the 4Runner is going through a complete update and the current information has a small V8 as an option. I will be looking seriously at one of these in about 2018 to make sure the bugs are worked out.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:57 AM   #19
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I am keeping my 2012 Rav4 / 35,000 mi /tow pkg/4WD till i am no more driving. I thought that to about my 2002 F150 4WD crew cab 80,000mi but my step son needed a truck real bad and my wife said i would feel better if he had a decent truck to drive his son around, ohhhh you know the story. Carl
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We made out OK with the FWD Nissan Van too. Although I recall once when towing the pop up (no WDH) that in a panic stop the front wheels of the van started to locked up and the anti locks kicked in. Towing the pop up through a Buffalo snow storm the FWD van was fine. We had Michelin X all season tires on the van.

With the van when the 23' was connected, and using the WDH all went well too. No traction or braking issues. The drive train weight on the drive wheels of the van is a good thing especially when using a WDH.

Note our lighter, RWD car has less traction when towing than the heavier FWD van...... or maybe its just the extra 120HP that gets the rear wheels searching for traction on loose surfaces. :7)

No doubt AWD has an advantage.
Our rear drive pickup was much improved with the addition of a limited slip differential. Without it, the right rear tire tended to slip under a load, whether under hard acceleration or towing a trailer. That is just a normal characteristic of an open differential. The limited slip is a great stabilizer.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:27 AM   #21
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We tow with a 2006 Tacoma TRD offroad, 4.0 V6 5 spd auto, 4x4 xtra cab with super springs for trailer towing, bought the truck new a couple yrs before we bought the 17 ft 06 Spirit Deluxe Casita, its been a great tow vehicle, 13.5-14 mpg towing and 18.5+ mpg unloaded, trouble is the miles add up fast, we have 153K on it now, still going strong with no major problems just the usual brakes replacement, service work is about it, maybe next yr we can upgrade, I think I would go for same rig only a 2016, with the new 3.5 V6 with atkinson cycle, better hp (lexxus engine), better mileage, 6 spd auto, not sure what all will change on the 2016 models. Either the Tacoma or a full size Tundra. Don't expect much in way of mpg out of the Tundra. Those are my recommendations depending on the weight of trailer your towing.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:44 AM   #22
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Our 2008 Toyota 4Runner V6 is an awesome TV, it is very comfortable, great brakes and adequate power for our Escape 19. In 2016 (2017 model year) the 4Runner is going through a complete update and the current information has a small V8 as an option. I will be looking seriously at one of these in about 2018 to make sure the bugs are worked out.
As you might know, the 4Runner has a new generation from 2010. There are reviewers who have said that the present V-6 is better than the previous V-8. You would be in a new generation to get one now.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:44 AM   #23
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I am replacing (really adding to my 2009 VW TDi DSG Jetta Sportwagen (Golf Variant in the rest ot the world) with 250,000 miles with a 2103 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI DSG.
GWR 4454 lbs, 140 hp 240 ft/lbs torque. Tow rating in the US 1000 lbs.
Tow rating in the rest of the world 1800 KG with 95 kg. towbar weight.
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I have used a 2006 TDI for towing over a 100,000 km, everywhere from PEI, Vermont, the Tail of the Dragon in North Carolina with a 16' Airstream Bambi, to about 150 trips Vista Cruisers and R-Pods, Airstream 16, 19' and 22' as far as Fort McMurray, Alberta. Our 2010 with the new 2.0L has done about 90,000 km (50,000 miles) so far. Our 2010 has a DSG and never has overheated."
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:06 PM   #24
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My 1997 Jeep Cherokee (bought new) has 220,000 miles and still purrs like a kitten pulling a Casita 17. Looking at a new 4runner and a chevy van. The van offers more hauling capacity, but that means I would have to keep my automobile (2012 Camry hybrid). I am addicted to the mileage of the hybrid, but would like to reduce to one vehicle and the 4runner seems to fit that bill.
Any opinions on the 4runner or the van would be appreciated.
Enjoy the forum and the information. This is my first post.
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A much less expensive answer to 4wd when driving in heavy rain is to simply stop for a while. I had to in Montana last month, took all of an hour to blow through.
Stopping may work when its raining but does
nothing when there is two feet of snow on the roads.
Without 4 wheel drive ,I would spend many winter days
trapped at home because I could not make it out to a main plowed
road. Try buying /selling a truck in the upper midwest with 2 wheel drive.
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My Bad, I thought that we were talking about vehicles for towing FGRV's, which is usually a fair to good weather activity, not about year around daily use vehicles. When there are two feet of snow on the road most FGRV's stay at home.


Here in SoCal, where 4x4's are mostly a style statement, about the only time they need 4wd is to climb back over that parking bumper they overshot.... or for that twice a year trip to the ski slopes so they don't have to put on chains. LOLOLOL
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My Bad, I thought that we were talking about vehicles for towing FGRV's, which is usually a fair to good weather activity, not about year around daily use vehicles. When there are two feet of snow on the road most FGRV's stay at home.


Here in SoCal, where 4x4's are mostly a style statement, about the only time they need 4wd is to climb back over that parking bumper they overshot.... or for that twice a year trip to the ski slopes so they don't have to put on chains.
We only have about 4 to 5 months of seasonable weather in our area. We travel with our trailer year round , If not for 4 WD, I could not get my trailer out of its storage area in the
winter .Two feet of snow is just one more obstacle to overcome. Last year it was -27 deg
F (below zero) when we left home for the GE&H rally in Alabama .Our first night camping on our way south was spent in a SP with a foot of snow on the ground and -14 below temps. We also use our FG trailer for deer hunting at the end of November and again towing our trailer on a snow covered logging road requires 4 wheel drive. Many may only use their trailer
in fair weather , we use our trailer in all types of weather! Snow and cold are not an exceptable excuse where I live to stay home and put life on hold !! Not everyone lives in sunny California

PS I am retired so I don't need 4WD to get to work.
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As you might know, the 4Runner has a new generation from 2010. There are reviewers who have said that the present V-6 is better than the previous V-8. You would be in a new generation to get one now.
Thanks Cathy, yes Toyota redesigns the 4Runner every 7 years, the current V6 is a great powerplant but the Escape 19 has enough weight that a V8 would be an advantage. My 2008 4Runner is in great condition, just turned 60,000 miles so I can easily get more years out of it and wait until the 2018 model 4Runner.
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