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Old 08-04-2015, 09:10 AM   #15
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I do not have the towing spec on the Hybrid Highlander...the standard Highlander with a V6 automatic can tow 5,000 pounds...no info on the Hybrid.
My only test drive of the Hybrid Highlander was in 2007 and my test involved an "off the line" full power start on the entrance ramp of an expressway...got up to over 80 MPH at the top of the ramp! I was both suprised and impressed!
You do not equate fast with the normal Hybrid vehicle but the combination of the very powerful electric motor engaged with a 269 HP V6 engine at the same time with the petal-to-the-metal was very impressive! Interesting combination....a very knowledgable Toyota service technician had warned me of the powerful off the line surge I would get if I hit the accelerator in the manner I did (that prompted my "test" on the expressway ramp)....burned a little rubber of the tires!
In theory the electric motor does not engage with the V6 gasoline engine....in slow traffic only the electric motor powers the vehicle...the gasoline engine powers the vehicle in a "demand situation" or when the battery system needs charging...the change over is seamless and you almost never hear the gasoline engine start to supply more power or run the alternator to charge the battery. Great system overall for both gasoline economy and power! I did note the Highlander Hybrid had the smallest improvement in overall gas mileage of the available Hybrids...but it is a full time four wheel drive vehicle.
I did own a regular Highlander for a time and it was a very nice vehicle...lots of interior space and plenty of power....when a chance to grab a FJ Landcruiser presented itself I sold the Highlander and now drive the FJ Cruiser and it is a great tow vehicle with plenty of power and weight (4,700 Lbs dry)....fantastic off road 4X4 abilities!

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Old 08-04-2015, 09:26 AM   #16
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Wow congrats on your brand new Escape. Gonna be an epic trip there to pick it up. Happy Camping! A lot of folks say make sure you have a tranny cooler (for summer time) on whatever vehicle you decide on.

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Old 08-04-2015, 09:35 AM   #17
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We have the Highlander with tow package. Will tow the 19 Escape at highway speeds all day long. Have to watch it in flat country or the next thing you know, it's running 75 mph. No ticket yet but it won't surprise me when it happens. I'd set the Lexus up and not worry about it, it will do the job. Then when you're ready to get your next vehicle you'll have a really good idea of your wants and needs.
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Old 08-04-2015, 03:39 PM   #18
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As I understand it, the 2008+ HL hybrid is rated for 3500 lb towing (but the 500 lb hitch rating should still apply). It has a different 4wd system than the regular HL, though... the hybrid's rear wheels are powered by electric motors that kick in only when slippage is detected at the front wheels. Whereas the regular HL splits its power full-time between the axles.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:58 PM   #19
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Chilliwack is on THE main highway across Canada (Route 1 I think) and is a freeway. Not likely to have winter road issues on that.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:10 PM   #20
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Which tow vehicle to buy

To Norm, I was interested in your comments on RAV 4 and Honda CRV. I had a 'o4 CRV, v-4v which was a very good car, but I was a bit disappointed in the mpg & it wasn't rated to tow my 3500# Casita 17'. I now have a 2008 Merc Mountaineer 4L v6. Power of ok, tho torque a bit low, and towing mpg sucks at around 14. So I'm curious how RAV4 stacks up, also Highlander. Have always been impressed by Toyota products...have you any info on 4Runner as a TV?

My Merc has the advantage that I own it, and it's under 70k miles, but tho I like it ok I'm not truly fond of it!

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Ps o3842 if your zip, means we are close by; we're in Concord/Loudon.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:24 PM   #21
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Have always been impressed by Toyota products...have you any info on 4Runner as a TV?
I was at a towing seminar a few years ago and the speaker, a highly respected towing specialist used the toy 4 runner as an example of "how not to build and design a tow vehicle", although they do make for a very reliable off road vehicle. This was one of the early gen models. Apparently the later models are better.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:35 PM   #22
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To Norm, I was interested in your comments on RAV 4 and Honda CRV. I had a 'o4 CRV, v-4v which was a very good car, but I was a bit disappointed in the mpg & it wasn't rated to tow my 3500# Casita 17'. I now have a 2008 Merc Mountaineer 4L v6. Power of ok, tho torque a bit low, and towing mpg sucks at around 14. So I'm curious how RAV4 stacks up, also Highlander. Have always been impressed by Toyota products...have you any info on 4Runner as a TV?

My Merc has the advantage that I own it, and it's under 70k miles, but tho I like it ok I'm not truly fond of it!

Thanks, Stu
Ps o3842 if your zip, means we are close by; we're in Concord/Loudon.
Stu, I once had the opportunity to get a very nice Casita 17 for $7,000 and did not buy it because our CRV could not tow it. I'd kept our Scamp 16 which the CRV towed easily. We towed with the CRV for 6-7 years and averaged 20-21 mpg depending on the trailer. The heaviest vehicle we towed was a Casita 16.

We had a manual transmission and I'm a conservative driver. SInce we have only one vehicle, I can tell when Ginny drives just by looking at the mpg read out. Individuals drive differently. WHen I was a mayor the police department told me Ginny drove one speed 50 mph, on main street or the highway.

We are nearby in Hampton. WE've lived here for 30 years but are selling this year.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:05 AM   #23
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Chilliwack is on THE main highway across Canada (Route 1 I think) and is a freeway. Not likely to have winter road issues on that.

Last February the cherry trees were blooming in Chilliwack & people where in shorts ..... but Chilliwack has been known every few years to get snow in February -lots of it- yup even on the main highway ;-) & that stretch of highway is know to get pretty icy in snowy cold conditions but normally only on the road for a day or two. Snowy road conditions in March or later are a pretty rare thing in Chilliwack. So no real reason to leave the pick up date much later than that.

If one was to travel through the southern portion of the US and come up the coast the odds of hitting serious winter road conditions are not great. Most probable spot to hit snow would be in Grants Pass in Oregon.... then again last February there was little to no snow visible at the top of the pass on the sides of the road and the roads where clear and dry for most of the winter.
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WHen I was a mayor the police department told me Ginny drove one speed 50 mph, on main street or the highway.
"a mayor", Norm, I'm not surprised to hear that. We learn a lot about a person from reading 100's of their posts and I can believe you have the right stuff to occupy the seat in the mayors office. Way da go man!
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Old 08-23-2015, 06:26 AM   #25
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Wayne,
Being Mayor was another life extender that almost turned out to be a non-extender. The first day the town hall was picketed by people who wanted to open a homeless shelter on Main Street. As well I discovered the town was literally bankrupt due the crooks that preceded us. We actually made the front page of the state wide newspaper, something like: 'First CT Town Bankrupt'.

I was able to get the town through it without bankruptcy but .... I ended up serving 3 terms. It was a part time position that became a full time effort We got through it and actually decreased taxes. The previous administration were really crooks.

As to the people picketing Main Street, they became good friends. We did allow the shelter and I became a supporter, sleeping there many nights as the chaperon. After the first night, I realized they needed food as well and opened a soup kitchen. I love to cook but quickly learned the real missing component is companionship. Most people came to the soup kitchen to eat and talk. I swear the talking was at least as important as the food.

There are many great stories from this period. I learned so much. So often you start down a Frostian Road, and it makes all the difference. Definitely our RV time has been equally illuminating.
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:07 AM   #26
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I picked up my Escape 19 in June of this year. They would not deliver it to me in Chilliwack, I guess due to the import into the U.S. They towed it over the border and I took possession in Sumas, Washington. I guess they could set up your hitch at the factory, though. I didn't go to the factory at all. If your 17 is anywhere as good as my 19, you'll love it.
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Thanks Norm, Robert & Wayne, I appreciate your input.

I am waiting for a return call from Reese at Escape Trailers for his opinion, he has sent off many towed 17B trailers from their factory.

I have time on my side, so for now I have stopped looking the classifieds for Tow vehicles.

Seeing the RAV4 & Sienna towing Escape 17B on the Forum reassures me some


Thanks again
Hi: disneydoc... I'd outfit the L 350 and try towing with it first. The performance could surprise you and save the new tow expense for now. We've towed the last two Escapes with the same tow quite successfully and don't mind having the 4 dr. pickup either. The Nissan Frontier has a tow capacity of 61-6500 lbs. and I get 17-18 miles per Imperial Gal. @ 65 mph.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:59 AM   #28
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Thank you every body for your input. I really appreciate it.

We are coming around slowly to think that our Rx350 at least deserves a try out with towing duties to tow the Escape 17B, but honestly if I see a V8 4Runner passing by on the road my mouth starts watering.

We are holding on to our 2nd car, a 2003 Avalon XLS for now & not replace it with the intended V8 just yet.

We will postpone that decision for next year after the towing experience with the Rx350

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