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Old 10-08-2016, 06:24 PM   #15
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Or if you forget to unhook the umbilical cord over night.

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But, you only do that once.
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Old 10-08-2016, 06:34 PM   #16
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Or if you forget to unhook the umbilical cord over night.
Yes, thanks.. sometimes I forget to mention the obvious.

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But, you only do that once.
Or not even once, if you don't have the charge line to start with.
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Or not even once, if you don't have the charge line to start with.
Get rid of the trailer entirely and you'll have no problems or expense.
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Get rid of the trailer entirely and you'll have no problems or expense.
Yes, but then I'd need a therapist.
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Why?

Maybe he does not need a charge line, nor want to pay extra for it.

I get along fine with not charge line. What is different here?
Maybe, Maybe she doesn't.

Whats the difference?

If you never camp without power then you can probable get away without a charge line just fine. Or if you never run your fridge on DC when towing you could again can get a way without a charge line just fine.

But if your like me and camp without out power frequently its good to arrive at camp with a fully charge battery so your probable going to get a charge line added so the battery gets charged up as you move from camping area to camping area. Yes I have solar but it can to be counted on a great deal due to heavy tree coverage and wet weather here on the coast.
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I stated "7-way" which implies charge line, and I do want that, too. Though I do have a question- there is an Auxilliary line in a 7-way. What would one use that for? Backup lights? Something else?

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Not sure how your trailer is wired but the seven pin wiring connector on the Scamp goes like this:

Green (TM) - Tail Lights and Marker Lights
Red (LT)- Left Turn and Brake Light
Brown (RT) Right turn and Brake Light
Black (S) Interior 12 volt lights and Accessories
White (GD) Ground
Yellow (A) Brake Lights (Foreign Stop) or Backup Lights
Blue ( ) Electric Brakes
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I could probably get by without it and just start with full batteries but as someone said, might as well have it. And putting it in is not much more work, so whoever does the brake line, they can do that, too. Good to know about a relay to shut it off, though.
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I could probably get by without it and just start with full batteries but as someone said, might as well have it. ...
For what it's worth (and that ain't much), I do have a charge line. I did all my own wiring and when I put in the brake line I said to myself, "Self... As long as you are crawling under the vehicle and getting all dirty to run the brake wiring, you might as well add a charge line."

So that is what I did.

However it was a bit more difficult (in my case) to add the relay. There was no good place to get a 12 volt tap only when the ignition was on in the engine compartment, and a relay in the rear of the vehicle from the rear 12 volt outlet, while possible, was little extra work. So I left the charge line always on (wired straight to the tug's battery, with fuse of course) and figured I would just have to unplug the trailer before it killed my tug's battery.

At first I left the fuse out (meaning there was no power on the charge line). I did it this way for a while to see how it went. And what I found was that it worked fine for me. So I never put the fuse in.

I might use it someday if the need arises. And different styles of camping and travel might make it a very nice thing to have. But is it an absolute requirement? No.
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Might find something useful here. I doubt your Forester is much different than my 2012.

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Might find something useful here. I doubt your Forester is much different than my 2012.

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Thanks. The six hours for the brake wiring is enough to convince me to have the pros do it. I think my friend knows how but for the amount of work I want someone who does it more often.

I don't know why that didn't come up when I search. Are you still towing with the Forester?
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Thanks. The six hours for the brake wiring is enough to convince me to have the pros do it. I think my friend knows how but for the amount of work I want someone who does it more often.

I don't know why that didn't come up when I search. Are you still towing with the Forester?
No. The hillholder clutch ended that rather quickly. I went back to a pickup.

Most of the 6 hours was finding how to get past the firewall and removing plastic without breaking anything.

If you have it done remember you can get the brake signal on the input of the light converter. Trying to pick that up at the brake pedal is tough.
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I haven't had any trouble with the hill holder but the most I've done is to go up a small rise from a stop (with the trailer). Are electric brakes going to affect that?
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I haven't had any trouble with the hill holder but the most I've done is to go up a small rise from a stop (with the trailer). Are electric brakes going to affect that?
No, electric brakes should be fine. On mine, the brakes would not disengage until the clutch was completely released. Stopping on a hill was the issue. No feathering the clutch. A lower first gear would have helped.
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Weird. I wonder why the difference. I can feather the brakes just fine. The first time I got a little burning smell but no problem since. But I haven't actually stopped midway up a hill with the trailer (and since I really don't trust the hill holder I try not to do it without one.) Oh, wait, I did get stopped on the up part of the Astoria Bridge (Oregon to Washington) with the trailer and had no problem but I think I used the emergency brake on that start (put on er brake, release clutch, release emergency brake) and didn't try to trust the hill holder.
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