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Old 06-24-2018, 05:29 PM   #1
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Yes the Outback tows great

We just finished a 4200 mile trip using our 2014 Outback with the 2.5cyl engine. I have a Tenkosha Prodigy 3 brake controller. We traveled from Charleston S.C. to Rocky Mountain National Park, Boulder CO, Santa Fe and back. Our Scamp is a 2018 16' with layout #6. We had clothes for 2 weeks, full fridge and the back of the car loaded. In addition we had a bike on the roof as well as a roof box. Never had an issue with power or maintaining speed. I kept the highway speed to 65 and was able to climb to 9000' to our campground with zero issues and maintain the posted limit. Trip average was 18.9mpg. We did keep the water tank empty (filled once at the park).

I was very impressed with the performance and more importantly the braking performance of our rig. Don't think you need a big SUV or truck to do big trips with a Scamp. We now have about 6500 miles of towing on the Scamp with zero issues.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:31 PM   #2
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I am pleased you have had no issues. Safety with towed vehicles is important for you and other drivers sharing the road.

A web search indicates a 2014 Outback 2.5i 4cyl, continuously variable transmission, has a maximum tow rating of 2700 lbs across 3 versions (from Edmunds & 1 other).

I encourage you to weigh your rig at a truck scale, with the clothes, full fridge, loaded back of car, bike, box, & passengers. You are likely getting close. Even if you are under, you may not want to tow that close to capacity over the long run.

Scamp's website indicates a hitch weight of 165 lbs.
They list approximate weight of 1750-2000lbs. Some say this is "optimistic".

https://www.scamptrailers.com/showro...pped_rev_1_690

Enjoy. Sounds like a great trip.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:14 AM   #3
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I suppose I could go and weigh the trailer, from the factory it came it at 1980lbs. I can lift the tongue onto the car and there is only 1" of sag once hitched to the car. Point being everything worked great. We on this side of the pond are way to wrapped up in these figures. Same car over in the U.K. or Australia can do almost twice as much. Lawyers here and the desire for car companies to sell people way more vehicle then they need drives tow ratings. Not the capabilities of the vehicle itself.
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I suppose I could go and weigh the trailer, from the factory it came it at 1980lbs. I can lift the tongue onto the car and there is only 1" of sag once hitched to the car. Point being everything worked great. We on this side of the pond are way to wrapped up in these figures. Same car over in the U.K. or Australia can do almost twice as much. Lawyers here and the desire for car companies to sell people way more vehicle then they need drives tow ratings. Not the capabilities of the vehicle itself.
1) Did you ever consider that the people on the other side of the pond may be wrong ?.
2) Could you imagine what your tow vehicle would look like if they were designed by a committee of lawyers ?

I think you give attorneys way to much credit or blame depending on how you look at it
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As long as you don't exceed the capacities of your tow vehicle, AND you have properly set up trailer brakes, all should be fine. These limits are set to not be exceeded, and not as something you need to be much lower than as some people feel.

While you may get better towing characteristics with a vehicle that has a tow capacities well above the trailer weights, like improved passing and unlimited speed on steep inclines, there are also lots of negatives, like having a vehicle bigger than you want, having to spend more money, the cost of fuel to the pocketbook and environment, etc. There are lots of different desires amongst buyers, but the bottom line is to be safe.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:34 AM   #6
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We returned a few days ago from my first trip hauling our 16 ft. Casita with our 2010 Subaru Forester. I can report that car exceeded my expectations although I didn't haul near as much cargo as the OP and never exceeded 60 mph on a down hill run. We did climb a pretty steep grade on US 101 in Northern California where the car slowed to 45 mph before cresting the top and several others that I am sure couldn't have been crossed at more then 55 mph. We also crossed some pretty steep, rough, sometimes dirt secondary roads to get to our camping destination at the Lost Coast here in Nor Cal. I have read that Subaru redesigned the 2.5 boxer motor in the year following the production of our Forester which increased torque. Perhaps that is the difference between our experience.

We also used a Tekonsha Prodigy wireless brake controller. It was easy to set up and worked great. We averaged 16.5 mpg on the slow back roads and one mpg better on the highway.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:38 AM   #7
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Nor Cal, glad to hear you had a similar experience. Sounds like your setup is equally competent.
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Like you we towed a Scamp 16 with a 4 cylinder, our 2004 4 cylinder Honda CRV, putting 250,000 miles on. We crisscrossed the USA 6 times without any issues. Our tongue weight was typically 200 lbs. It was a great economical combination.
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Old 06-27-2018, 05:14 PM   #9
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Has anybody used a Honda Pilot with 2WD with electric brakes, used for pulling a scamp
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Has anybody used a Honda Pilot with 2WD with electric brakes, used for pulling a scamp
Also what is interior height of standard scamp?
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If you search the forums you will find ample info on the questions you ask.
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Also what is interior height of standard scamp?
6'3"
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The Pilot should do fine on any Scamp except the 5er! (for obvious reasons)
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Has anybody used a Honda Pilot with 2WD with electric brakes, used for pulling a scamp
What year Pilot and what Scamp? Honda dropped the 2WD rating to only 2000 pounds for 2012-2015, limiting you to a 13'. Otherwise it's 3500 pounds.

Our 2011 LX 2WD pulls a 13' Scamp fine. It would likely do well with a 16' Scamp also, with one caveat. Front wheel drive can lose traction pulling uphill on a slippery or loose surface, especially with a trailer in tow. There is one section of back road leading out of a local lake camping spot that our Pilot struggles with: sharp left turn followed by 100 yards up a steep slope with loose gravel and exposed bedrock. I have to disable ESC and allow some wheel spin to make it up with our 13'.

If you do much backroad camping, a 4WD would be better. For mostly highway use, the 2WD is fine.
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