TX 1986 19ft Scamp Gooseneck Travel Trailer Redone Inside!! $4500 - Page 3 - Fiberglass RV


 
 
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:46 AM   #29
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My fleet wrecker (like most), had a formula on the back with a ball hitch adapter. It would easily reach high enough to tow a Scamp "fiver" to a safe location, if it was not practical to simply tow the truck and trailer together.

Well that is certainly a relief , not that I was overly concerned to begin with. I'm more of the go with the flow whatever happens happens type of person.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:33 PM   #30
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I vote for non-goose neck Scamp proprietary contraption.

In casual conversation I refer to mine as a 5th wheel, and then move on to "more of a goose neck" if it seems to better fit the discussion.

We DID get rid of the Scamp mounting in the bed of the truck and went to a removable unit. NICE to be able to use the whole 4 foot wide bed again.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:44 PM   #31
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My view:
  • The Scamp 19' - including this modified one - is not a fifth-wheel, because it does not have a pin-and-plate or "fifth wheel" coupling. If it's a fifth-wheel, then so are all of the trailers normally called "goosenecks".
  • The Scamp 19', like many trailers with ball couplers which are sometimes called "goosenecks", are not goosenecks - a gooseneck has a long "neck" ending in the coupler "head" to connect the trailer body (which is behind the truck) to the hitch roughly over the axle of the truck. In contrast, the Scamp 19' body extends over the truck, just like all of the more conventional RV trailers with fifth-wheel (pin-and-plate) hitches.

Despite this, the towing equipment industry routinely calls any trailer using a ball-and-socket hitch system located over the towing vehicle's axle or rear body a "gooseneck", and the Scamp 19' would meet that description.

It makes no sense to me to attach some special meaning to the ball diameter, and how the manufacturer of the coupler intended it to be used doesn't seem relevant to me either. One could mount a coupler intended for gooseneck use on the end of a conventional "tag" trailer's tongue and it would work fine... and not transform that trailer into a gooseneck.

I don't have a good name for this trailer type - it's just a trailer with the hitch high and forward compared to the hitch location for one pulled by a conventional rear-mounted hitch.

The Scamp design is just exceptionally inconvenient because both the 2" ball size and the high location make it incompatible with common "gooseneck" towing rigs.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:53 PM   #32
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Sorry in advance for what must reasonably considered a sidetrack from the topic...

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... many of us will continue to refer to modern cars and crossovers as "unibodies" when technically they are not.
"Unibody" is just short for "unitized body and frame", and that certainly is how modern cars are constructed... unless you want to call disconnected little bits of subframe a "frame".

They're not monocoques - is that what you were thinking of, Floyd?
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:17 AM   #33
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It wasn't modified all I did was lower the adjust ment on the gooseneck hitch...
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You know you people are something else what's so weird it's has a GOOSENECK hitch And its a 19ft scamp what's so weird???
I would hesitate to call people "something else" in what appears to be a negative sense when they are clearly telling you that the trailer is modified, as anyone would know if they looked at any stock Scamp 19', including the one on the Scamp Trailers website.

The coupler of this trailer has certainly been modified, replacing the original coupler with an extended tongue/neck and a common vertically adjustable ball coupler as normally used on gooseneck trailers.

The modification is significant for a buyer: the forward extension puts higher stress on the forward part of the Scamp structure, and if extended downward (as in the ad photo) it puts huge torque on that structure. Of course, it does allow for a wider choice of hitches.

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have been pulling it like that since I had it you can pull it that way or you can pull it with a ball in the bed I just prefer doing it this way
The other significance is that, despite the above comment, the truck shown looks like it could not tow the trailer in the normal (for a Scamp 19') hitch configuration: the box sides are too high for the trailer body to be over it. This is a common problem for Scamp 19' trailers with recent full-sized pickups.

Towed on a conventional hitch, this is just a long trailer with an inconvenient raised bedroom and clearance problems when turning (because the tongue isn't long enough to keep the trailer body from going over the tug in sharp turns, and the trailer body isn't high enough to clear a tall truck box safely).

Towed with a ball in the truck bed, the ball could be unusually far forward; if it is not, there is just extra overall rig length (compared to the stock configuration) with no extra trailer space to compensate.
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Sorry in advance for what must reasonably considered a sidetrack from the topic...


"Unibody" is just short for "unitized body and frame", and that certainly is how modern cars are constructed... unless you want to call disconnected little bits of subframe a "frame".

They're not monocoques - is that what you were thinking of, Floyd?
No, but you just made my point perfectly... thanks!
How about "Splungebody"?
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Looking for first trailer

Is this trailer still available?
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WOW this sure got a long way from a poor guy trying to sell his 19' scamp...

Any way you could send me some more pictures?... if it's still available.
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