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Old 11-19-2008, 10:05 AM   #1
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Hello, I thought I'd try here first, before I go calling Scamp looking for a replacement support for the kitchenette cabinet to the upper cabinet.

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[quote]Hello, I thought I'd try here first, before I go calling Scamp looking for a replacement support for the kitchenette cabinet to the upper cabinet.

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A simple solution may be to go to a local welding/fab shop tell them what you need and they can prob build you one in a couple minutes. A more elaborate one could take 15 minutes more. It would come out of their scrap pile.... Larry
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:11 PM   #3
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I'd just go get some cool pre-made chair leg dowels at the depot, or possibly some type of metal tubing where you could run wiring to the top cabinet which is always difficult to get wiring in.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:29 PM   #4
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This is a chance to make something uniquely your own. We've seen panels made out of stained glass, twisted driftwood that's been stained and varnished, fancy table legs, just about anything that doesn't bend. There's also this setup as Greg mentioned, this is a Boler mod by Gail Schultze, wiring runs inside the tube.
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This is a chance to make something uniquely your own. We've seen panels made out of stained glass, twisted driftwood that's been stained and varnished, fancy table legs, just about anything that doesn't bend. There's also this setup as Greg mentioned, this is a Boler mod by Gail Schultze, wiring runs inside the tube.
I like that, especially with the option of adding wiring inside. However, I would think that it would perhaps add stress to the side of trailer causing more "middle aged bulge". Might be something to consider. Larry
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:21 AM   #6
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Thanks for all the great ideas! I had not concidered making it a way to hide wires, as we have many new wires running down near where the brace should go, I was going to hide them after we finished some of our updates. Luckily we have plenty of time to work this out. No major trips planned for a while. If anyone has any other photos of custom braces they have or have seen, I would love to see them posted here!
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If anyone has any other photos of custom braces they have or have seen, I would love to see them posted here!
April,

Wasn't sure whether to continue here or to start a new thread, but here is one that could include wires. I would prefer this design to the one that angles out to the outside wall because I think it's better to transfer the stress down towards the frame than out towards the sidewall.

This trailer has supports on both ends of the kitchen, and while I'm sure that can't hurt, it's probably not necessary. These look like they could be stainless-tube fittings such as you'd find in a boating catalogue (they may be elsewhere as well). You would have to drill a hole into the center of the base in order to run wires (the tube is already hollow) - I've done that for boat wiring.


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Another idea that I've used (for a different type of project) is thick-wall copper water piping with (in my case black) spray-painted iron base fittings. That might be a neat look with the earth tones inside your trailer (probably cheaper than stainless too).

I'm thinking I had a plumbing shop solder/braze the threaded end onto the copper pipe, but it's been years and I can't remember for sure (I wanted my pipes to be removable as they were part of a boat-rack system). Anyway, it was relatively inexpensive.

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That's exactly what I was thinking of eventually doing. Looks like standard marine hardware was used for the bases and the poles.

I love those cabinets, Raya!
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I love those cabinets, Raya!
Me too, although I should have mentioned that's not my trailer! It's a photo I'd found on the Internet and saved because I liked the red countertop.

I do like the clean stainless post.

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PS: Their towels will certainly be dry....
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I'm thinking I had a plumbing shop solder/braze the threaded end onto the copper pipe, but it's been years and I can't remember for sure (I wanted my pipes to be removable as they were part of a boat-rack system). Anyway, it was relatively inexpensive.
I think you could do that by soldering pipe-to-tube adapters onto the ends of the copper (say, 1" dia) and then screw the adapters into floor flanges which are available in standard steel pipe sizes. The floor flanges are just what they sound like, a flange with usually four holes cast into them to allow attaching to a flat surface. Not as flashy as the boat hardware, but certainly functional for less cost and could be painted easily.

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That's about what I did, Parker. I was using them for uprights on a set of roof racks. You can then stand whitewater kayaks up on edge and lean the whole stack against the upright. Because they were threaded into the bases I could remove them when they were not in use.

Some people used galvanized pipe (same as the bases) but I had copper-colored pinstriping on my car at the time and I wanted something just a bit neater.

I believe the shop recommended thicker-walled pipe than the usual you get at a home store. It might have been "K" wall? This is years ago so I can't remember for sure. I used 3/4" pipe and had copper pipe caps brazed onto the "skyward" ends (of course in this application you'd likely have flanges on both ends).

I think I spray-painted the bases black, but I might not have...

It did come out kind of neat, and it was different From the pre-digital-camera age though.
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If anyone has any other photos of custom braces they have or have seen, I would love to see them posted here!
April, you may wan to cruise through the topic > Interiors, (Not a How To Thread) for inspiration.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:42 PM   #13
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I did think of one disadvantage of the mounting of those stainless tubes I showed above, and that is that their base(s) would be one (more) thing to collect gunge and to have to clean around on the kitchen counter. The original side mount wouldn't be as bad that way. Also less in the way if you use a cutting board there, etc.

Not that a tube couldn't be side mounted, although it would be a bit less straightforward.

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Thanks for all the help, we are thinking of making a removable support that when in motion will be locked into place, but when we stop, we can remove it out of the way, since we know there will already be such limited space inside, adding one more obstacle doesn't sound too appealing. We do realize the importance of having the support though, so having something we can put in durring transport should be a good solution. When we do figure it out, I will post updates.
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