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Old 07-09-2014, 10:46 AM   #43
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Tom, I did not know schnauzers were terriers, but I did know they were bred to go to ground for vermin.

Buckley had a 6# toy poodle mom and a 10# miniature schnauzer dad. Buckley is all of 14#s, but not fat. He's a great dog, a mix of two smart breeds, and has a mind of his own! He also likes to fetch.

I will give Buckley an extra pat on the shoulder for ya Tom. He's not gonna be happy with me tonight, cause I'm getting home late!

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Standard Schnauzers don't belong to the terrier group. They are a medium sized (~40 lbs.) dog bred as a general farm dog. They do have a strong rodent prey drive, and will dig up surface mole tunnels to get a mole they scent or hear beneath the surface. In the past they have been used as a herding dog but have not really been bred for herding characteristics in a long time. Good watch dog but generally pretty calm.

Mini Schnauzers were bred from standard Schnauzers by breeding with terrier to bring down the size. They have more of a terrier temperament and will "go to ground" into a burrow after prey. Or dig their way pretty deep into a burrow. Standard Schnauzers don't generally do this lacking that terrier character trait and being too big to make it practical they have not been bred for it.

I know a breeder that raises both, difference in temperament becomes apparent when you approach the fenced in yard and both types are out. They all bark initially, then the standards trot over to the fence and stand there checking you out, the minis continue to bark at you while doing short challenging runs at the fence.

Both can be very sweet and devoted family members, death to rodents and do an excellent job of being a fur covered alarm system.
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Roger That, RogerDat. You are correct. I was speaking of Mini-Schnauzers, but should have specified. Mini's are great little watch dogs. I read an article about western ranchers using them teamed up with a German Shepard to watch sheep at night. The Schnauzer sounds the alert when coyotes or wolves visit, and that triggers the Shepard to take care of business. They say mini's will bark at leaves falling off trees, but mine were not that bad. Nothing gets by them though.

You didn't mention Giant Schnauzers. They were bred for watching cattle, and later for military and police work. A friend used to breed them and they can go over 100 lbs. Very reserved nature, and loyal to the end.

BTW, a phrase I used many times a day when I was working was "Roger That". I still do. Also use the term "Negative" instead of no. My wife has tried breaking me of that, since I left the Army; but so far to no avail.

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Roger That, RogerDat. You are correct. I was speaking of Mini-Schnauzers, but should have specified. Mini's are great little watch dogs. I read an article about western ranchers using them teamed up with a German Shepard to watch sheep at night. The Schnauzer sounds the alert when coyotes or wolves visit, and that triggers the Shepard to take care of business. They say mini's will bark at leaves falling off trees, but mine were not that bad. Nothing gets by them though.

You didn't mention Giant Schnauzers. They were bred for watching cattle, and later for military and police work. A friend used to breed them and they can go over 100 lbs. Very reserved nature, and loyal to the end.

BTW, a phrase I used many times a day when I was working was "Roger That". I still do. Also use the term "Negative" instead of no. My wife has tried breaking me of that, since I left the Army; but so far to no avail.

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We had much the same situation as you describe with the Shepard/Schnauzer team when our Samoyed & Husky mix (Bandit) was getting older. We also owned a Shih Tzu (Columbo) who being much younger would go off at the slightest provocation which would bring the larger dog running out of a sound sleep. Bandit did not hear as well when he was older so Columbo acted as his warning system.

Bandit had a guard dog temperament, bark once or twice then not going to backup and let you in unless told to. If you persisted one growl and lips would curl up. Never had anyone push it past that. But very gentle with kids.

People with Giants have to put locks on their fridges because those guys are big enough (and smart enough) to open the door. Food on the counter is almost in their face so unless well trained leaving steaks out to thaw may not work out well for YOUR dinner, works out pretty great for the dog however.

I'll have to find a picture of our standard and post it. She is 9 now but still catches squirrels that try to raid the bird feeder. They have to beat her to the fence or tree every time, she only has to beat them there once. Doesn't take many races before she wins.
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RogerDat, I'd like to see your speedy Standard Schnauzer. Our first dog was a Beagle. He used to catch rabbits and drop them at my feet. Will she be going to Algonac? We'll be there with our two pooches. Looking forward to meeting you too, BTW. We'll be in #140. This will be our first Rally. We're planning to move back to that area soon ourselves. I grew up in S.E. MI. and most of my family is still there. We lived in St Clair Shores, Auburn Hills, and New Baltimore.

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Old 07-12-2014, 11:24 PM   #48
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Have to admit, I'm quite the dog nut. Have been my whole life.

The pack right now...

Patsy, GSD mix, 3




Pete the Labrador, 13.5




Sadie, GSD/Akita/Chow Mix/? 15 and still the Alpha...




Waylon, the fat cat...Patsy and Waylon are best friends. Waylon grooms Patsy daily, licking all over her face and ears, even the insides. Gross. They also play together a lot. Waylon thinks he's a dog.


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This is my rescue dog Katrina, AKA "Weener." She is 7 years old. This is a pic from our most recent camp last week. Awww...Click image for larger version

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This is my rescue dog Katrina, AKA "Weener." She is 7 years old. This is a pic from our most recent camp last week. Awww...Attachment 73570
What a cutey! I bet she is a good girl too!

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She is! Such a sweetheart. We love her to death! Thank you for noticing her; your comment makes me proud!

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We definitely need a "Like" button! All of these furry friends are so cute!

This one isn't exactly furry, but he's a great little traveler.

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Wendy, cool dog! Ours are on post # 17. We often say we have a Wiener dog and a Whiner dog.

Travis, I'll bet there's never a dull moment with your pack. All good looking dogs.

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Hi Tom,

What a couple of cuties! What body of water are they frolicking in? Weenie is a big babykins too. She's got various personalities depending upon whether attention or food are possibilities. She's a lucky girl though cuz the animal service league picked her and her brothers and sisters up from Kentucky and saved them all from certain death. Then I saw her on petfinder.com and drive to Richedter, NY to get her! She's done more traveling than I, my little southern belle!


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Wendy, Dewey the Dachshund and Piper the Rat Terrier are checking out the crayfish at a beach on Lake Michigan, near Escanaba in MI's Upper Peninsula. We bought Dewey from a local (Chicagoland) breeder, and found Piper in an eBay ad! We went down to the Notre Dame campus in South Bend, IN to pick her up. Both great dogs that are becoming great little travelers. They've been up to Backus, MN in -20 degree weather last January, and Florida in April. We'll take them everywhere we go, but I don't have to explain that to you or anyone reading this thread, eh?

I only get to see my other friends when I go deer hunting each fall. That's also in the U.P. See post #23 in this thread.

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