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Old 04-22-2013, 07:38 PM   #71
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roger-i guess i should look into those...she is crate trained but the one i have is metal and heavy and i am all about being light these days.

i wonder if those jrt's bump their head on the ceiling? the ones i knew were like bouncy balls...up...down...up...down
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[QUOTE=RogerDat;380757]I have seen many people at dog agility trials use a nylon "pop-up" dog crates. They range from really lite weight frame of wire that springs into shape such as this one Boots & Barkley® Large Pop Open Dog Kennel : Target

We have tried this one, have not been pleased with it.Wind will blow it over and the fabric will get runs & tare. Even if your dog is crate trained.It is good as a place for them to hide with their blankets ,to just go in & out of.

To some that have thin poles such as one would find in a bag chair or dome tent. Such as this one. Amazon.com: Firstrax N2-36 NOZTONOZ Sof-Krate Indoor/Outdoor Pet Home: Pet Supplies

This type crate is very good,once they are crate trained, see them all over at dog shows. I have used one like it for years there are lots of brands & price ranges for this style and I have found them to be stredy and easy to use.Pet stores;Walmart;Target and many other places have something like this.I like the ones that have a zipper on top as well as a front zipper.That way you can give a fresh drink or treat without getting down to open the front.( more ways to get in means more $$)

This one we also see a lot of at dog shows: Search - collapsible pet pen - Camping World

They can also be found at pet stores and at on line pet catalog suppliers.I gave the camping world sight because I was getting ready to order this one for our camper. Light weight,folds up flat good to use inside & out.

So if you want to crate all the above are good ideas. If you want to leave them free in the camper & protect your screens then I would consider: something like this example: Amazon.com: screen door guard You could cut down something like almost any of these to work on your door or windows.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:32 PM   #73
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Watch out for those collapsible pens. My friend lost her dog at a dog show when she escaped from it- they are NOT very secure. Expens are better (the metal kind) although unfortunately they weigh a lot more. Her dog is a 20 lb corgi. (Luckily after a two-day search they found her about a mile away- not stolen, people saw her run.)

I have Noztonoz crates but they will not contain my Houdini corgi- he eats through them. (Expens won't contain him, either, though.) I use an airline crate for him or a tie-out when we camp, but always in the crate if I'm not able to be right there watching. The other two will stay in the Noztonoz, and I like them because the covers are replaceable if they wear out (or get chewed.) I've had mine for about 7 years.

I'd love to find a lighterweight fencing for dogs- I was just looking at various kinds of mesh fencing to see if I could find anything. Jack, the Houdini dog, will stay on a tieout but he weaves in and out of everything that stands up or has holes so he ties up very fast. (It's actually quite impressive.) But I don't want to carry tall Expens (even if they'd keep him in, which they might with a top) because of the weight.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:40 AM   #74
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I use the "great crate" from precision pet dot com. It will fold down flat and only weighs a few pounds. No dog ( not even Houdini dog ! ) can escape from it. I keep it set up in the back seat, ( with the crate door open ) of the truck while traveling, because my Schipperke likes to get in there and sleep sometimes as we drive. It's nice at camp too because I can set it up outside while I'm sitting out, and prop a large golf umbrella over it for shade if need be. Also found a water/food dish that attaches to the wire crate on the inside with a bolt/wingnut, so she can't spill her water.

I got all of it at the petsmart store.
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My last guy loved his crate so much he had a big melt down when he was about 5 and I redid my kitchen. I decided we could live without his large crate in the kitchen - he apparently didn't agree with that design decision. LOL Often had visitors ask what my dog had done wrong that he needed to be locked in a crate - I would point out that there was no door on the crate and it was just his prefered spot to sleep when someone was home & we might see him up on the couch which was actually his much prefered spot ;-)

I have used the wire crates that fold down but as mentioned if it a larger dog they are pretty heavy as are the exercise pens. As a result I have also used the plastic crates but the ones that have the levers on the sides that make it simple to take the two halves apart (dont have to deal with a bunch of screws to get it apart). Just flip the top of the crate over to fit inside the bottom section for travel if the crate doesn't fit into the back of the vehicle fully set up.

Small metal buckets (found at most pet stores) and a double ended snap hook also works well on wire pens or crate doors from keeping the water from spilling.
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lynn-thx. a lot of info there. especially at the amazon search. ( Amazon.com: screen door guard ) i would prefer to have her free when i leave her inside. there are a lot of options.

i wonder how much the noztonoz weighs. i couldnt find it on there. i have the "great crate" and it is heavy for me. online it says 14lbs. it is safe and sturdy-i used it when i had 20lb dogs....now i have a 9lb

i'm glad i asked on here cuz i didnt realize the light ones would blow away...i often camp on a cliff overlooking the ocean...and its windy...and a long way down! i guess you should stake the crate if its light and windy.
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lynn-thx. a lot of info there. especially at the amazon search. ( Amazon.com: screen door guard ) i would prefer to have her free when i leave her inside. there are a lot of options.

i wonder how much the noztonoz weighs. i couldnt find it on there. i have the "great crate" and it is heavy for me. online it says 14lbs. it is safe and sturdy-i used it when i had 20lb dogs....now i have a 9lb

i'm glad i asked on here cuz i didnt realize the light ones would blow away...i often camp on a cliff overlooking the ocean...and its windy...and a long way down! i guess you should stake the crate if its light and windy.
yes, nine pounds sounds about right. I guess we all have our own idea of what "a few pounds" is .....so I consider it a light enough choice. I got the cage for dogs "up to 25 pounds" even though she only weighs 10 pounds, so she has a little more room to move around. Yes, she is just a "little" spoiled . I have no idea how she got THAT way....
Speaking of pets, I just got her a new tag made from boomerang tags. I like it because it is curved and attaches right on the collar strap, rather than hanging down. The one that hangs down got caught in the floor vent at home one day, sending her into an all out panic when she raised up with the vent attached and dragging along with her !
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:04 PM   #78
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i read thru most of this thread and see there can be problems camping with dogs. i've had dogs and horses my whole life and also taught 30 yrs and raised 4 kids so i "get" behavior mod and training. most of my life i had large dogs but about 20 yrs ago had to switch to smaller dogs that don't shed because of allergies. first i had schauzers then the shihtzu/maltese/ yorkie mix i have now.

i went to obedience school with all of them. the kids went with the first two because they were still living at home. the dogs all did well with the training but in each case things happened later to change their behavior.

the one i care about now is the 9lb shihtzu mix. she was very happy, everyone was her friend, no growling or barking (except at groomer...that's a whole other story) until she was about 18 months and we went to a new dog daycare. she was used to beiing out with 14 dogs under 20 lbs but they had been introduced gradually and pecking order was established and all were fine together. at the new daycare she was alone in a large room with one staff and ready to meet the dogs. i assumed they would send in small dogs one by one.. they sent in 5 greyhouds all with muzzles on. granted...they couldnt bite her...but they were big and i think even a paw could hurt her. i wouldnt say they acted aggressive either...but my girl was overwhelmed and got herself in a corner and snapped and growled at them until i stopped it.

then her best buddy from next door- a male corgi - who she had played with at his house loose in the yard for 6 months-came over on a leash one day with his owner. my dog went to the owner for a pat and he attacked my dog.

she is changed. her first response now is to not trust who the new person or dog is...as much as she wants to play and meet them you can see she is scared. i have set up situations for her to meet quiet dogs and dog-friendly people-not quick moving kids etc...and that continues to go well.

but it would be normal for her to bark if she was in the car and someone approached. so i assume that is what she will do in the camper.

my question...since many of you are very experienced in both dogs and camping...is how do you train a dog to not bark at strangers? she does not get picked up and cuddled when she does it. she is reprimanded and if she doesnt stop she is removed/isolated-which i have learned is the worst punishment i can give her. she is beginning to understand "no barking. she's my friend. she's a good girl" or "no barking . he's the mailman. he's a good boy".

these little dogs really do understand sentences...maybe big dogs do too. i learned that with the schnauzers. but if you know how i can stop this barking at strangers and odd noises and growling(she has only snapped once) if the person keeps coming at her...please let me know. she is only 2. she is worth fixing. but i havent figured it out-and it came after those two traumatic events.

ps-i wont use one of those electric zapper things
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george-is that a pic of your dog...a few pages back. black on the dinette seat? she looks more than 10lbs. i've never heard of that kind of dog. have to check them out.

i have pretty bad hand arthritis so there are many things i have trouble with now. carrying and opeing the metal crate is hard. so far i can still hook up!
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I'm surprised that someone doesn't make a better quality flexible dog cage made with braided cable mesh that really is secure, but light weight and fold-able. They make absolutely everything else for dogs.
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george-is that a pic of your dog...a few pages back. black on the dinette seat? she looks more than 10lbs. i've never heard of that kind of dog. have to check them out.

i have pretty bad hand arthritis so there are many things i have trouble with now. carrying and opeing the metal crate is hard. so far i can still hook up!
Yep, that's my LBD there on the dinette. Schipperke's are known as "little black devils".....ha ! ....they have quite a lot of personality. You're right, in the photo of her on the dinette seat, with nothing else there to reference, it's hard to see her size. Here's another shot of her coming back with her tennis ball....you can see she can barely get her mouth open far enough for the ball. She's 10" tall at the withers and weighs 10 pounds.

As for keeping them from barking while camping, I am not sure what to say about that, other than I train her essentially the same way we train horses....apply pressure when the bad behavior occurs, then release pressure when they behave. They soon learn that the release of pressure occurs when they are good, and they prefer, "no pressure" vs "pressure". On this dog, "pressure" is basically giving her a stern look, and pointing a steady finger at her. I don't even have to touch her.

Having said all that though, I really pretty much let her bark at most of what she wants to bark at, except when camping. We have the discussion that she is to be a good girl in campgrounds, so as to get along with the neighbors ! When I leave the camper in the evening to go to the showerhouse, I leave her in the camper with the shades drawn and either the TV or radio on, and sometimes the fan too. That is enough background noise that she can't hear what's going on outside, so she is not compelled to bark. Being small, her bark is not very loud anyway, so for the most part, if the camper is closed, you can't really hear her outside.

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so what kind of horses??? hmmmm. i see your in MO. that would be a trek...altho i have friends in branson and SE kansas

i'm looking for a bomb proof, short, chunky something to get me thru the next 10 years or so...

i know carol used to ride...are there other horse lovers here too?

my 9lb mix couldnt get her mouth around a tennis ball until she was 2. now i stab the tennis ball and make a flap...but sometimes she gets the whole thing in her mouth

i have a pic of her on my album in my profile but i havent figured out how to move it here

and -in some ways i feel like you about letting her bark. she really never barks for no reason when at home or in camper. and i like to know when someone or something is around. i was glad to read about the pom mix a few pages back scaring off a bear with barking...the bears have been coming in houses and cars around here.

i need to stop her from barking when on leash tho...i guess she has to remember i am the big dog and will take care of her.

ps-good ideas about background noise in camper...that might work for me.
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....here's one more of the LBD. She couldn't stand the fact that I was taking photos of a saddle without her......so she wanted up there to horn in on the action. This kind of shows how small she is.

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neat pic...so do you have quarter horses...they have always been my favorite. smart.
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