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Old 03-14-2012, 09:38 PM   #29
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Alright I'll throw my two cents in here. I am currently in what many of you refer to as a stick built, although the sticks in mine are actually square aluminum tubes. But I could see eventually ending up in a FGRV. Right now at the top of my list is the Escape fifth wheel.

I'm going to go against the grain with the following....but I'll say it anyway: I want a slide out. I completely, totally enjoy my slideout....I'm sitting in it now typing this. There is no reason that I can think of that slide could not be incorporated into a FG trailer. It's just a really big hole in the wall...it's not a big deal. Sealing these things is not a big deal these days.

Next point: Norm made a great observation about these trailers being low, rounded and aerodynamic ( I'm paraphrasing ). How about this: I want an adjustable suspension. I know, it will cost. I'll pay. I want to be able to have the trailer nice and low to the ground ( and of course still nice and rounded ) for better towing on the highway ( higher fuel mileage, better handling ), but then I want to be able to raise it, maybe five inches or so for rough dirt road travel. I want a good suspension, with shock absorbers.

And I want the interior to at least look somewhat "residential".....like what I am sitting in now.
I want integrated solar panels too.
And some sort of low profile, yet high flow roof vent with a good fan in it, like a maxx-air that can be open and flowing when it's rainy. My Maxx-Air works very well in the rain, but it's not really low profile.

And put good tires on it too !

There......how's that for throwing a wrench in the works ?!

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Old 03-14-2012, 11:15 PM   #30
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One of my jobs as a freelance designer, I am curious to ask all if not, most molded fiberglass trailer owners and to-be owners questions related to your wants in a new version of molded fiberglass trailer. You can share your thoughts here and discuss about alternations, new layouts, whatever. Also I may design some trailers that will revolutize and revive the RV industry that had been in a bad pothole since 2008. (many RV companies ceased operations in 2008-2010).

1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?

I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!

Ok, please share!
I have a Escape 19, tow with a Tundra 5.7 V8, trailer loaded weighs 3400#, pulls nice with dual axles. I have also owned almost all the Bigfoot Trailer Models, like the Gaucho and CB 17ft, both 21ft FB and RB, 5th Wheel, 19ft Gaucho, Bigfoots are nice weigh a lot you need a full size tug for pulling.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:28 PM   #31
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1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment. I love the look of the Boler. It's modern and a throwback.

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer? Ford Explorer V6

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle? Yes and no. I don't have to worry about gas. I'm on a limited budget R.V. wise. This is my project and I only have so much cash to spare. When I redo it though, it will be a custom design.


4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons? Yes, that's why my first RV is a Fiberglass RV. I've never been interested in the stick version. I've never seen one that appealed to me in any way. I've been awed buy not enough to want to drive, park, store, clean, or repair a stick trailer. Although, I'd love to take a crack at an airstream.

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer? Well, since I've only ever camped in her once... So far, I've spent more time cleaning and ripping her apart
6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom? I would love a toilet/shower, but for now I can do without all the luxuries.

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events? Never been to one...

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new? As already mentioned the oxygen is very cool. I really like a lot of the european caravans, old and new. Some very interesting designs and products, I'm not sure why N. America is so behind the times...



As an aside, any concessions made for aerodynamics is a trade off for storage.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:32 PM   #32
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One of my jobs as a freelance designer, I am curious to ask all if not, most molded fiberglass trailer owners and to-be owners questions related to your wants in a new version of molded fiberglass trailer. You can share your thoughts here and discuss about alternations, new layouts, whatever. Also I may design some trailers that will revolutize and revive the RV industry that had been in a bad pothole since 2008. (many RV companies ceased operations in 2008-2010).

1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.

Yeah it is of limited size. I have the Boler 1700. IMHO a 16-17 foot trailer is the smallest available with a toilet and a shower. Small beds are about their only real downside. Simple design started out as a septic tank. No patents on the design so it was actually adopted and built by many manufacturers. They changed the rv industry forever. No patent can do that.


2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?

V6 pickup without much towing capacity.



3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?

Was definitely a factor. Now all the rv manufacturers are scrambling to build ultralight trailers.

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?

Yes because of one piece body, less leaks, long lasting rounded timeless designs. Hate the new bulge mobiles with slide outs. Like some of the new fiberglass laminate trailers with foam sandwich construction and aluminum frames.

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?

Lots, cooking, eating, bathing. Depends on the weather and surroundings. Spend more time outside in rural areas.

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?

No bathroom? May as well have a tent.

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?

Never

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?

I like boler and Uhaul but its hard not to like something new at least until you see the price tag.

I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!

Ok, please share!


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Old 03-15-2012, 12:55 AM   #33
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Alright I'll throw my two cents in here. I am currently in what many of you refer to as a stick built, although the sticks in mine are actually square aluminum tubes. But I could see eventually ending up in a FGRV. Right now at the top of my list is the Escape fifth wheel.

I'm going to go against the grain with the following....but I'll say it anyway: I want a slide out. I completely, totally enjoy my slideout....I'm sitting in it now typing this. There is no reason that I can think of that slide could not be incorporated into a FG trailer. It's just a really big hole in the wall...it's not a big deal. Sealing these things is not a big deal these days.

Next point: Norm made a great observation about these trailers being low, rounded and aerodynamic ( I'm paraphrasing ). How about this: I want an adjustable suspension. I know, it will cost. I'll pay. I want to be able to have the trailer nice and low to the ground ( and of course still nice and rounded ) for better towing on the highway ( higher fuel mileage, better handling ), but then I want to be able to raise it, maybe five inches or so for rough dirt road travel. I want a good suspension, with shock absorbers.

And I want the interior to at least look somewhat "residential".....like what I am sitting in now.
I want integrated solar panels too.
And some sort of low profile, yet high flow roof vent with a good fan in it, like a maxx-air that can be open and flowing when it's rainy. My Maxx-Air works very well in the rain, but it's not really low profile.

And put good tires on it too !

There......how's that for throwing a wrench in the works ?!

george

Hear, hear!

And make it approx a 30 footer or so. With 2 slides. Don't need adjustable height - I never go off pavement.

OK racing Firesuit on! Flame away!
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:48 AM   #34
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My wife and I currently have a 17' casita Freedom Deluxe. We love the side dinette, bathroom, and the rear bed.

We bought it for light weight and aerodynamic shape. We have looked at new trailers but nothing fits all our needs.

Here is what we would want.

Rear bed where you do not have to "crawl over" the spouse to use the bathroom
a bit wider floor space

15" tires

Bathroom is definite

No rivets in roof

We love our casita, but would buy another trailer in a heartbeat if it was 19-22 feat, molded fiberglass, side dinette (captain chairs), Bed in rear without crawl 0ver, with a bathroom.

Hope this helps and good luck

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Old 03-15-2012, 12:17 PM   #35
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One of my jobs as a freelance designer, I am curious to ask all if not, most molded fiberglass trailer owners and to-be owners questions related to your wants in a new version of molded fiberglass trailer. You can share your thoughts here and discuss about alternations, new layouts, whatever. Also I may design some trailers that will revolutize and revive the RV industry that had been in a bad pothole since 2008. (many RV companies ceased operations in 2008-2010).

1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?

I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!

Ok, please share!
1. Love the Boler shape!

2. 03 Nissan Xterra, V- 6 Supercharged, not great on gas (or the environment for that matter) but we are stuck with it for now.

3. Yes we bought it because it was small light attractive & easy to tow.

4. Most definitely fibreglass, from a family with 5th wheels, toy haulers and stick built 25-30ft trailers, we have watched years of problems with rot and rapid devaluation.

5. Not sure yet, reno'ing our trailer, it's our first as we were avid tenters...probably sleeping & afternoon naps for me (wife) and when it's raining hard...

6. Definitely no bathroom, we are young & happy to use park facilities or what have you.

7. May go to the racetrack occasionally. .

8. Boler !!
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:45 PM   #36
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I'm going to go against the grain with the following....but I'll say it anyway: I want a slide out. I completely, totally enjoy my slideout....I'm sitting in it now typing this. There is no reason that I can think of that slide could not be incorporated into a FG trailer. It's just a really big hole in the wall...it's not a big deal. Sealing these things is not a big deal these days.
George, I don't think you really want a molded fiberglass trailer, at least not at what most current owners consider an affordable price, considering the changes you request.

BTW, you should ask Airstream about the slide-out. At an RV show last year I sat and visited with a company rep and was told it was a huge blunder. Too heavy, too expensive and moved out too shallow. They only made a few trailers with it and they were not great, not up to Airstream quality standards. A slide works much better on what you have (stick and staple) than on an aerodynamic style, especially molded. After all it's really IS a big hole in the wall...not "just" a big hole in the wall. And YES, it IS a big deal when you have to engineer it.

I'm like some folks who say a slightly bigger molded fiberglass trailer would be wonderful, 19' to 21'. I believe that's about as big as it could be done well with current technology, considering you are working with the characteristics of fiberglass.

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Old 03-15-2012, 02:26 PM   #37
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1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.

I like fiberglass trailers for all the usual reasons.

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?

My tug is a 2011 4-cyl Tacoma. For my little 8 foot camper it works well but I've never pulled it over a mountain.

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?

Yes. We were heading toward building a teardrop when the LiteHouse came along. We were able to buy it for less than what parts would have cost for the TD.

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?

I've owned a stick-built trailer. There's a lot more that can go wrong with wood and aluminum.

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?

Very little. Most of our trips are to music festivals where we set up a big canopy for picking and drinking. The camper ends up being our bedroom.

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?

I would love to have indoor plumbing but the trade off's are not worth the costs (more maintenance, bigger tug required, etc.)

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?

We host occasional jams at music festivals but having instruments inside a tiny trailer doesn't work. Instead we do them outside around a fire or under a 10x20 canopy we sometimes bring along.

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?

I am partial to my LiteHouse but that's just because it's what I know. Your mileage may vary.

I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!

Ok, please share! [/QUOTE]
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1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.
2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?
3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?
4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?
5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?
6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?
7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?
8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?
I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!
Ok, please share! [/QUOTE]

1) Yes. the one thing I would change is the vertical ridge seam that wraps around it.
2) 6 Cyl Ford Escape. Bought it specifically to tow this trailer.
3) Yes, wanted small, easily towed trailer. At the time I was looking, none of the camper mfrs felt that small trailers were worth their time (not enough profit). I stumbled onto the FG website and have been in heaven ever since.
4) Most assuredly like the FG egg better. Less seams to leak, durable finish, easy to work on, simple clean aerodynamic design.
5) I sit in it and read sometimes during the day, it's my little 'happy place'. I enjoy being inside it as much as outside.
6) No bathroom. I'm trying to simplify. No bathroom means no pipes to worry about leaking, nothing to winterize, etc. Simple porta-potty and using the campground facilities.
7) No tailgating parties. Camping with friends.
8) Love my UHaul's interior smooth walls (double hull design like Burro, and the EggCamper). I do wish that it had insulation between the hulls.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:58 AM   #39
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One of my jobs as a freelance designer, I am curious to ask all if not, most molded fiberglass trailer owners and to-be owners questions related to your wants in a new version of molded fiberglass trailer. You can share your thoughts here and discuss about alternations, new layouts, whatever. Also I may design some trailers that will revolutize and revive the RV industry that had been in a bad pothole since 2008. (many RV companies ceased operations in 2008-2010).

1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment.

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer?

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle?

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons?

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer?

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom?

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events?

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new?

I will not reveal a design I came up with and only 3 people including my wife reviewed my concept on the drawing board and they said go for it!

Ok, please share!
1) yes
2)6
3)yes and no
4)yes because they have style.
5) depends on the weather. If it's horrible all day otherwise we are out and about.
6)I need a loo, its was the deciding factor to give up tenting.
7)no.
8)makes no difference
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Size Matters
As an aside, fiberglass trailer can be made much larger, Witness the TRAVCO Class "A's" and the 25' Class "C's" they built in the 60-'s and 70's. And the beautiful GMC's of that same period. But it's just a lot cheaper to build with conventional construction when you start getting that big. It's all about $$$$$ and much less about ability. That said, next week, when gas goes over $5 a gallon, the cost of larger trailers made of lightweight fiberglass will start becomming more attractive.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:32 PM   #41
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1.) Do you like the simple design of a molded fiberglass trailer like you have at the moment. Yes Oxygen 2002

2.) Do you have a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder vehicle to tow your trailer? 8

3.) Did you buy the fiberglass trailer for economical sense such as to combat against gas guzzling, fewer or lower powered vehicle? no

4.) Do you prefer molded fiberglass egg trailer (Scamp, Bolens, Burro, Etc.) rather than a stickbuilt trailer (Fleetwood, Coachman, Dutchman, etc) for what reasons? sleek looks, aerodynamic

5.) How much time besides sleep time did you spend inside a trailer? 1/2 hr am; 3 hr night

6.) Do you prefer to have bathroom installed or no bathroom? Yes, although a porta-pottti would be easier and faster to empty

7.) Do you host tailgate parties often at your favorite sports event or state fair events or special events? No, but do attend antique car week-end or week long events

8.) Do you like the brand names that are no longer in operations or something new? Yes Oxygen, the interior is a crisp airy white, no wood grain anywhere

Changes: Yes I'd like to be able to walk around the bed, no wiggling down to end of bed and out over my feet through a 15 inch space. My knees are not happy with crawling up the bed to get in either. Still keep the bed queensize. More than one electrical outlet and Not over the bedding]
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Hmmmm.....
In looking at the replies it looks like a fairly easy design task:
1. Must be fiberglass so it will last forever
2. Must have a queeen size bed that is accessable from two sides.
3. Must have a fixed front or side dinette
4. Must have a bathroom w/shower & hot water
5. Must fit in a 13' shell
6. Must have a 3 burner stove with oven and a double door refrigerator
7. Must have at least 4 storage drawers, 6 overhead cabinets, a pantry and a closet big enough to hang at least 20 items, including a full length formal gown.(For real glamping!)
8. Must be tall enough inside for someone 6'4" tall
9. Must be short enough outside to fit into a standard garage.
10. Must have built in solar cells
11. Must be towable by a Fiat 500 or a Smart car
12. Must be priced under.......... $16,000 delivered.
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