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Old 04-26-2016, 01:26 PM   #71
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Forgot to add...I used to show my dogs, so have a little dog fence experience. I think however, that goat fencing trumps dog fencing. Goats are MUCH more creative!

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Thank you again for your comments. We are considering quite a number of options and have found some nice Xpens for reasonable prices on Amazon. I haven't seen any pictures of these pens in use and have read a few comments regarding complete enclosures, which I like the best. A complete enclosure would afford multiple access points by including multiple gates. The information you've provided is appreciated.

We have never camped before so we don't have the benefit of seeing what others are doing. This entire experience will be such a learning process and we're very excited to begin this weekend.

Thanks again for your help.

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You do know portable fences, then!

What a good many dog people use are x-pens (exercise pens), likely lighter than what you'd use for goats. Some people just unfold the pen outside the RV, some use a smaller pen with a larger pen surrounding, and some have the pen go all around the trailer (for sneaky stray dogs that might come under) with a smaller pen near where people sit for the dogs. Like people and dogs in a pen

I agree with others who say if a dog is tied out it could be attacked by other dogs or wildlife and couldn't protect itself well.

Person as to do what THEY feel is right!

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Forgot to add...I used to show my dogs, so have a little dog fence experience. I think however, that goat fencing trumps dog fencing. Goats are MUCH more creative!

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Old 04-27-2016, 08:23 AM   #74
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You have not said if you have big or small dogs so my comments may not be useful if they are big dogs. Our Boston Terriers are used to being on leash as, even at home, they are mostly leashed since they will chase squirrels, birds, anything really. So they are used to that when camping. We have a dining tent to increase space so they are off leash there or in the trailer. They travel crated so, if we leave them in the trailer, they are usually crated in the trailer so they can not jump up and look out the window and see something to bark at or jump at. All things above have been said, watch for temperature, give lots of walks and lots of water. They will show you things when you are walking that you would never have seen. They make good heating pads in the sleeping bag when nights are cold but way too much heat in the bag when the summer night temperature is high! They will love the time with you. Have fun this weekend.
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I have a tie out line for my naughty dog. I either attach it to the bumper or the picnic table. It's about 20 ft long enough to come inside or chill outside. She's only ever on it if I'm with her. If I leave the site to go to the out houses are anything she is either with me or locked in the trailer. My well behaved one is free she won't leave my site.


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Bob: we have four dogs (too many, all rescues) and they are all small. Two Chihuahuas and two Poodles. Like yours, they will chase anything that captures their attention. We have walked on leash a lot in preparation and are ready for camping but worry about tangling four leashes if they have to be on leash all the time...our Scamp is not really large enough for us to pack four crates into the small space even if we could leave them alone. Each morning, when we leave for work, I hear them "singing" for about two minutes as we pull out of the drive way. It wouldn't be well received at any campground and the thin walls of a Scamp wouldn't contain much of the chorus.


We recognize the concessions that we're making with having our dogs along camping, but we accepted those as the price of ownership, accepted years ago. Four dogs is too many and we won't do that again, but they are our babies, so...

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We travel often with two medium size dogs and use a x-pen. It's an easy solution that be configured multiple ways. You can use a tarp over the top for shade /rain cover/security.
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I was looking at this but currently not available.
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We have walked on leash a lot in preparation and are ready for camping but worry about tangling four leashes if they have to be on leash all the time
We use dog walker leashes with 2 dogs on each when we take them out for a walk. Fewer things to get tangled:

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Looking back at the first post, I see that no question was asked. But I guess it's become a little forum in itself. So, I'd like to add a little bit to the commentary.

I use one of those corkscrew things and a 10 foot cable with my dog. No camp host has stopped by with a tape measure, but I think the 6 foot leash rule only applies to outside of your rented site. I also have an eye bolt on the side of the trailer and another just inside the door to hook up that line, as needed. When we go for a walk, we use a shock absorbing leash, just like this one: Shock Absorbing Leash | Dog Leash | EzyDog Cujo It helps keep your arms in their sockets, if you know what I mean.

Unlike most of you, I don't close the windows in my beat up old truck on hot days when I go for groceries. My dog occupies the back seat with rails that keep her from going to the front. She always has water. When it's really hot, we just suffer together. And...this is a black dog who loves to lay in the sun. Go figure. I like to grab a breakfast meal at McDonalds when I can. She always gets at least half the hash browns. I'm Sure she recognizes the Golden Arches when we get close.

I have given up on National Parks, for the most part. They are not very dog-friendly, as others have mentioned. Also, the crowds have become intolerable. But....keep in mind when you make your plans, that most of the Parks are bordered by National Forests, where the rules are much less restrictive. And the beauty doesn't end at the boundary line. I found a wonderful spot on the north rim of the Grand Canyon, by taking a forest road that started just before the official entrance, which was practically grid-locked with big RVs.

I know people say that, when you loose a pet, you should wait awhile before replacing that pet. I didn't last 2 days before I was at the shelter, where I found my new best friend and constant companion. I still get teary-eyed when I think of my last dog, but my new friend has given me love and comfort. We have a Blast!

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Old 04-27-2016, 01:14 PM   #81
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Bob: we have four dogs (too many, all rescues) and they are all small. Two Chihuahuas and two Poodles. Like yours, they will chase anything that captures their attention. We have walked on leash a lot in preparation and are ready for camping but worry about tangling four leashes if they have to be on leash all the time...our Scamp is not really large enough for us to pack four crates into the small space even if we could leave them alone. Each morning, when we leave for work, I hear them "singing" for about two minutes as we pull out of the drive way. It wouldn't be well received at any campground and the thin walls of a Scamp wouldn't contain much of the chorus.


We recognize the concessions that we're making with having our dogs along camping, but we accepted those as the price of ownership, accepted years ago. Four dogs is too many and we won't do that again, but they are our babies, so...
We have four little ones as well, 2 rescues, a peke and Italian greyhound and 2 "swiffers" of unknown parentage, I have had from pups. Not allowed anymore without a permit in our city or we'd be crazy enough to have half a dozen. Yes, we are THAT childless couple!!! We camped with all four last year and will do it again this year but the leash thing sucks as ours end up tied in knots even with the non tangling cables. We own a 14ft Surfside with an awning and we set up a pop up screen tent from Walmart against the edge of the awning. The challenge is the gap between the trailer and the screen tent. A few extra pegs secures the screen tent edge so the dogs are fine in there. Recently bought an exercise pen which we use to kennel all four at home (easier than 4 crates) We will take it when we do weekend camping just for ease of set up but have been giving some thought to the vacation camp of two weeks. Was at the local farm supply and they have light weight step-on posts for temporary fencing (usually electric) but they should work to run a pvc fence around. Bought some deer fence which is a really lightweight mesh so hoping with a post at the corner of the trailer and the corner of the screen tent, front and back, we can block both ends. It can be cut too, so can stretch a short piece along the bottom of the trailer without blocking the door. The peke sneaks out that way. Will tack the bottom down with a few extra tent pegs. The mesh comes 7ft by 100 ft so plenty to play with or double up and can be secured to the post with cable ties. It rolls up the size of a throw pillow and weighs less than a pound. 35$ cdn. The posts are 5 ft high, plastic or fiberglass and about $6 a piece Cdn so maybe $4 US. Whatever mesh I don't use for fencing will be used in the garden for peas etc. That's my two cents worth.
Whatever you decide be mindful that with very small dogs that they are also vulnerable to eagles and hawks so even if you just do an x-pen, a tarp over part or all, offers shade and safety. Good luck. Our dogs love camping.
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This old tomato juice can filled with concrete and an eye bolt with Large washers has lasted us through four different family dogs through a 45 year time period and it's falling apart now but still holds our JR. Drop it over the seat of a picnic table or the trailer tongue and have campsite controll of your pet. Holly is now 13 and I don't know which will outlast the other. How long a lead is your option.


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Thanks Old Macdonalds- I'll be checking at Tractor Supply! The youngest Indoor kitty was only a few weeks old when he fell out of the bottom of a tractor trailer we were tailing. He was one big fluffball and the tractor trailer hit him in the head and then the turbulence blew him airborne- think Wile E Coyote when he runs off the edge of the cliff. All his legs were in motion while he floated to the verge- fortunately next door to the vet, who gave him IV steroids to reduce brain swelling. He is the sweetest thing, the size of a small collie. DH thinks he is a RagaMuffin, developed fro the Ragdolls, but slightly larger. We named him Roadkill.
Our "Big brother" indoor cat was dropped off in our yard when about 48 hours old. We heard him yelling all night- thought he was an adult cat in distress he was so loud. Found him at dawn. He refused goats milk thru a dropper, so we took him to the vet and found 3 other couples there with kittens the same size. Got an KMR starter kit and bottlefeeding lessons. DH had dreamt about a week before we had a marmalade cat named Yuki, so we named him Yuki. We were cat less at the time, having returned DD's cat to her when they bought their first house. Yuki was bottlefed by DH every 2 hours ATC and his little bum wiped to stimulate elimination. We didn't let him sleep with us as DH was afraid we would roll over on him. He understands English and did not realize he looked different from us till the first time I passed a mirror, while holding him on my shoulder-aged about 6-7 months. We started to have problems with him at about 9 months of age- he thought he was a human and he was hitting adolescence. DHs niece at this time determined she was going to take her daughter's 8 month old cat to the pound - this was AFTER having all 4 claws removed- because her youngest son was allergic. Of course the youngest son was allergic at the time they got the cat...we thought Yuki might do better if he had a playmate so we took Angel. Of course SHE was so upset at losing her family...But Yuki was absolutely fascinated. Stuck to her like glue for months and she taught him about cat-dom.
We have "Sucker for Cats" in big bold letters on our foreheads, I guess. Had a series of yard cats we would feed and pet and love, try to get to the vets for neutering and vaccinations..It appears our yard's carrying capacity is for 3 cats. We had a wonderful huntress who cleaned out a rat and rabbit infestation that was destroying my vegetable garden. She had a litter before we could get her spayed. The sole survivor is named Orangesoda. He was orange and had a brother who was cream colored so we called that one creamsoda. The feral was a great mother but we have red tail hawks, bald eagles, owls, coyotes, wildcats, foxes and feral dogs in our area. Momma died this past autumn, peacefully under the oak tree. The putative papa, Fathercat (for lack of a better name) called and called for her for weeks. He and Orange Soda became much friendlier. We know orange soda was feral because he was born in our hedge. The vet says none of them act like ferals, but it takes a lot of love to win their trust. And the latest one is named Nightfall. She is a little black cat who showed up around Christmas, just a skeleton draped with fur. Her front legs are bowed inwards and she has a funny gait. I think she was thrown from a car in motion. Very very affectionate, and now gaining a little weight. 3 weeks ago at the vet they said she weighed almost 7 lbs. I have started to give her chondroitin treats because her shoulders pain her. There used to be damp spots on her shoulder where she had licked and licked them- none since the chondroitin was started.
The 3 outdoor cats had wanted to be inside cats so bad they would attack our "insiders" when we let them go out out to play and try to chase them away- and then try to come in the house. Since the one momma died the two "former" males are much friendlier and we let them come in- but try not to keep them inside overnight. Not sure about their litter box habits- Fathercat was dropped off about 4 years ago, if he's not a feral...and Orangesoda, of course, never learned. I think Nightfall could use one but she'de have to have a very edge to step over- and we have a 3 1/2 ft by 18 inch litter box with 4 inch high sides that most all the others prefer to use- with a backup standard size kitty box in the back bedroom for "traffic jams" at the main box.
So when I say I have 3 kitties- I mean the inside ones- but I keep hoping to see the "outsiders" actually use the litter box, since that is kind of DH's requirement for adding to the indoor pride....
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Mac, we think alike. I am working on a solution to our fencing isse and may well find ourselves with an X-pen before we're don't but we're trying the flexible fencing idea first. I've use PVC pipe to fab up a frame that will sit around the doorway and reach under to prevent escapes. I'll get pictures when I have a successful prototype. The first model almost fell over with any fence hanging on it so I knew that wouldn't work. Back to the drawing board and a new modification to the original and we should have something to work with. I like the tread-post idea and we still have quite a few of those left over from our goat farm so we'll be employing those too.

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We have four little ones as well, 2 rescues, a peke and Italian greyhound and 2 "swiffers" of unknown parentage, I have had from pups. Not allowed anymore without a permit in our city or we'd be crazy enough to have half a dozen. Yes, we are THAT childless couple!!! We camped with all four last year and will do it again this year but the leash thing sucks as ours end up tied in knots even with the non tangling cables. We own a 14ft Surfside with an awning and we set up a pop up screen tent from Walmart against the edge of the awning. The challenge is the gap between the trailer and the screen tent. A few extra pegs secures the screen tent edge so the dogs are fine in there. Recently bought an exercise pen which we use to kennel all four at home (easier than 4 crates) We will take it when we do weekend camping just for ease of set up but have been giving some thought to the vacation camp of two weeks. Was at the local farm supply and they have light weight step-on posts for temporary fencing (usually electric) but they should work to run a pvc fence around. Bought some deer fence which is a really lightweight mesh so hoping with a post at the corner of the trailer and the corner of the screen tent, front and back, we can block both ends. It can be cut too, so can stretch a short piece along the bottom of the trailer without blocking the door. The peke sneaks out that way. Will tack the bottom down with a few extra tent pegs. The mesh comes 7ft by 100 ft so plenty to play with or double up and can be secured to the post with cable ties. It rolls up the size of a throw pillow and weighs less than a pound. 35$ cdn. The posts are 5 ft high, plastic or fiberglass and about $6 a piece Cdn so maybe $4 US. Whatever mesh I don't use for fencing will be used in the garden for peas etc. That's my two cents worth.
Whatever you decide be mindful that with very small dogs that they are also vulnerable to eagles and hawks so even if you just do an x-pen, a tarp over part or all, offers shade and safety. Good luck. Our dogs love camping.
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