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Old 11-15-2013, 06:15 AM   #15
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here's a few....

1] Dodge Aspen or Plymouth Volare'... Mid 1970s
2] Mercury-Lynx...circa 1981
3]Ford-Pinto...1979
4] Trabant 2cyl (18HP) plastic car -circa 1960s ( from East Germany).
Hi: floyd... #2 looks like the front end of a Plymouth Horizon also. I didn't know cars like that could pull the "skin off rice pudding" let alone a trailer!!!
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:51 AM   #16
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here's a few....


3]Ford-Pinto...1979

Interesting.... the largest engine in a Pinto for that year was a 2.8 with 148HP/120TQ.
That was the mission of the 13 Scamp from the beginning...
The Lima 2.3L/4spd manual would handily out run and out pull the 2.8L which was only offered with an automatic trans and (I think a 3:00 differential).
Most likely the one pictured is a 2.3.

If you found that interesting...Remember that the Lynx pictured was only available with a 1.6L 4cyl ( It's a Hemi!)

BTW; I pulled my open car trailer with a Ranger equipped with the Lima 2.3L engine... A 13 Scamp would certainly be no challenge.

I have towed my Scamp 13D for 7 years so far with an Escape 2.3L Duratec engine,including trips to both coasts with satisfactory performance and great fuel economy.
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Floyd... For a short time I had a 1971 Pinto. It had the 2.3 with a 4 speed manual. When the trans went south I put in a 302/4V, 4 speed top loader.

Note... I believe the 2.3 was a popular engine used in the smaller open wheel'd race cars.
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Floyd... For a short time I had a 1971 Pinto. It had the 2.3 with a 4 speed manual. When the trans went south I put in a 302/4V, 4 speed top loader.

Note... I believe the 2.3 was a popular engine used in the smaller open wheeled race cars.
Not to get too wonkish but the 1971 Pinto was available only with a 1.6L Kent engine or the 2.0L German engine.
The American made 2.3L Lima Engine was introduced for the 1974 model year. The 2.0L was phased out that year.
If yours was a 2.3L then it was the result of a previous engine swap.
I have a 1980 sedan which began life as a 2.3L automatic.
I switched to an SVO turbo with BW 4spd, later a T5.
It presently has a FMS 5.0L with a T5 and is patiently waiting for a return to the street.
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Your car sounds very interesting. I think you are right about my 71 having the 2.0 now that I dig deep into the memory bank...LOL

When I took it out of the Pinto I also recall a guy picking it up for his old 1920's Ford.
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Your car sounds very interesting. I think you are right about my 71 having the 2.0 now that I dig deep into the memory bank...LOL

When I took it out of the Pinto I also recall a guy picking it up for his old 1920's Ford.
Odd,I built a 1929 Model "A" 2dr street rod with a 2.3L /5spd.
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Hi: floyd... #2 looks like the front end of a Plymouth Horizon also. I didn't know cars like that could pull the "skin off rice pudding" let alone a trailer!!!
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I does a little... But it's a Lynx.
As for towing...Why do you think the poor thing is trying to hide behind that tree??
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Odd,I built a 1929 Model "A" 2dr street rod with a 2.3L /5spd.
I bet that's a cool car. I built a t-bucket with a 6.7L small block chevy. After building it, it was easy to see it was way too much motor. It would still be a kick with a 4 cylinder. Not that I'm about to change it...

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I bet that's a cool car. I built a t-bucket with a 6.7L small block chevy. After building it, it was easy to see it was way too much motor. It would still be a kick with a 4 cylinder. Not that I'm about to change it...

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150hp and a 5spd manual trans on a 2000 pound car... it was quicker than most V8s, especially those who's builders thought that an SBC rebuild consisted of a lot of chrome accessories.
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Model "A" with a Pinto motor....

That sound like one of the Shay Model "A" replicas that were built by the Shay Company and sold through Ford dealers some years back.

I thought it would be a very cool tv for a Teardrop or even a Hunter Compact, and then I test drove one and discovered why so many of then have low mileage on them. Horrible to drive.... really bad drivers position. A real Model "A" is easier to drive.
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Model "A" with a Pinto motor....

That sound like one of the Shay Model "A" replicas that were built by the Shay Company and sold through Ford dealers some years back.

I thought it would be a very cool tv for a Teardrop or even a Hunter Compact, and then I test drove one and discovered why so many of then have low mileage on them. Horrible to drive.... really bad drivers position. A real Model "A" is easier to drive.
I designed the chassis on mine with a solid boxed frame built on a jig to match the shape of the original ,a Mustang II frontend and a Fox rear, It was one of the best handling chassis' I have ever driven.
A Shay was a piecemeal pile of junk in comparison, it was full scale from the front to the cowl, then 2/3 scale from the cowl back.the frame was barely cobbled together.
Here's the only photo of it I have on my computer it is in the upper left....
click then click again for a good look.
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Cool Ford today

I just learned that the 2014 Ford Escape has a 2.5L 4 with a 6 speed automatic or a 1.6L 4 turbo with a 6 speed automatic.

The 2.5 is tow rated at 1500.
The 1.6 is tow rated at 3500.

Go figure.

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150hp and a 5spd manual trans on a 2000 pound car... it was quicker than most V8s, especially those who's builders thought that an SBC rebuild consisted of a lot of chrome accessories.
I have chrome accessories on my internally built 400hp motor. It's completely exposed & I want it to look nice. My car weighs around 1600#s with me in it, & is geared for acceleration. I'd have a great time racing a ton car with 150hp!

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The vintage Fords are a tow beast with the Pinto power plants!
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