Trailer Weigh-In at The Oregon Gathering - Fiberglass RV


View Poll Results: Should I Publish Individual Trailer Weights?
Yes - If the world can see, I WON'T participate! 3 4.17%
No - I want people to know true weights 69 95.83%
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:31 AM   #1
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Link to Previous Discussion last year

All trailers are different; even 2 trailers that are the same Make, Model, and Size will have different weights when modified and loaded by different people.

I am a believer in having individuals know what their own trailer actually weighs, so they can take proper precautions for Towing Safety. As a Scale Service professional, employed by San Diego Scale Company, Inc. I wish to share my knowledge with as many people as possible. I want to make knowing what your actual weight is as easy as possible: This is why I bring my portable scales to the Oregon Gathering.

People who are looking to buy, and know that I weigh trailers, will post questions wanting to know what the results were. In my view, they innocently expect my results will be a standard against which all trailers can be judged. It is easier to look at a published report on a website, than to actually go out and weigh a specific trailer for themselves.

I believe that these weights are privileged information. I believe that it is not MY place to broadcast to the world what anybody else's individual trailer weighs. I could be wrong. This is why I am posting this poll.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:14 PM   #2
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Thanks for asking this Fredrick.

Your service at the Oregon Gathering is a terrific opportunity to gather real world data and make it available to those interested in fiberglass rvs.
I'm fortunate to have a free highway scale available to me minutes from my home, but not everyone seems to know their numbers.
When we bought our Scamp the previous owner had never weighed it and only had the factory invoice that listed the weight as 1450#.
When I weighed it on the way home, I discovered it was 1930# and loaded for the trip to Bandon last year it was ~2340#.
Knowing actual weights has helped me make better decisions...what tow vehicle to use, for instance.

I didn't weigh in last year because I knew what my weights were. If we are going to share the data, I will definitely weigh in and contribute.

Thanks for helping people understand what their rigs weigh and suggesting we share this knowledge,
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:26 PM   #3
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I think publishing the weights is a grand idea. You could keep it anonymous by leaving off the owners names, but put in Year/Brand/Size/Model and a general idea of "stuff" packed.
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You could keep it anonymous by leaving off the owners names, but put in Year/Brand/Size/Model [b]and a general idea of "stuff" packed.
I don't collect any data on contents. I don't even remember if any of last year's participants had a big tongue box or not.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:17 PM   #5
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[b]I believe that these weights are privileged information. I believe that it is not MY place to broadcast to the world what anybody else's individual trailer weighs. I could be wrong. This is why I am posting this poll.
I see that there is at least ONE person who would not participate if the results were published. This concerns me.
I plan to ask each participant if they are willing to allow ANONYMOUS data to be published.
  • If their answer is YES, I will keep a copy of their data
  • If their answer is NO, I will NOT even make a copy of their data
I will not record data directly into my laptop like I did last year. I had technical difficulties keeping it powered up on my portable inverter. This year I have printed up paper forms, and will give the completed form to the participant. I have old-fashioned carbon paper to make copies with. I won't even make a copy if any participant does not grant permission to do so.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:56 AM   #6
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Looks like a good plan to me. Publish anonymous results from those who don't mind and leave out those who do mind. It can be very helpful to have an idea of what our little trailers weigh.

We weigh ours at weigh stations occasionally but plan to participate in your Weigh-in also.

I don't know exactly what procedure you will use but was wondering about weighing ours with and without the WDH. It might be an interesting comparison.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:09 PM   #7
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Unfortunately, I won't be there. I sure wish I could swing it, but I did get to visit Oregon for a couple weeks in June. Loved it.

I voted in the poll, because I would love to see the comparisons of the various trailers. It will be quite interesting.
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We weighed 25 Trailers yesterday!

I still need to transcribe all of the data, delete the owner's identification, and post the ANONYMOUS results.
That will take some time.

Once I get that done, and I find time to come to the Coffeeshop that has WiFi (no internet access at Bullard's Beach) during their business hours, I will post the ANONYMOUS results for both 2009 and 2008 in this post. I will also email Gene so he can post the CASITA results on his website.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:52 PM   #9
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The Anonymous Weight results of those trailers who granted permission for me to post:

#1
08 CASITA SD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1460, Right Wheel=1540
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=3000
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3360

#2
95 SCAMP 16
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1060 , Right Wheel=1040
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2100
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=320
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2420

#3
98 CASITA FD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1240 , Right Wheel=1460
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2700
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=420
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3120

#4
05 SCAMP 13
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=720, Right Wheel=700
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=1420
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=200
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=1620

#5
02 CASITA LIBERTY 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1460, Right Wheel=1420
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2880
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=420
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3300

#6
06 CASITA SD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1480, Right Wheel=1660
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=3140
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3500

#7
88 BIGFOOT TF20 5W
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1160, Right Wheel=1040
Trailer axle 2: Left Wheel=1140, Right Wheel=1080
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=4420
TRAILER HITCH (pin) WEIGHT=640
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=5060

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06 BIGFOOT 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=2160, Right Wheel=1880
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=4040
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=4400

#9
01 SCAMP 5W 19
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1600, Right Wheel=1400
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=3000
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=580
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3580
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#10
07 CASITA FD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1380, Right Wheel=1620
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=3000
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3360

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09 CASITA FD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1320, Right Wheel=1360
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2680
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3040

#12
74 COMPACT II
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=940, Right Wheel=960
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=1900
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=120
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2020

#13
82 FIBER STREAM
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=700, Right Wheel=440
Trailer axle 2: Left Wheel=820, Right Wheel=840
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2800
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=160
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2960

#14
04 SCAMP DELUXE 16
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1220, Right Wheel=1220
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2440
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2800

#15
07 CASITA PATRIOT 13
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1160, Right Wheel=1220
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2380
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=260
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2640

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08 CASITA SD 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1480, Right Wheel=1480
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2960
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=400
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3360

#17
07 SCAMP 5W 19
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1400, Right Wheel=1240
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2640
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=680
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3320

#18
03 CASITA LIBERTY 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1480, Right Wheel=1380
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2860
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=360
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3220
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An Escape owner weighed Last Year (2008)...
08 ESCAPE B 17
TRAILER AXLE 1: Left Wheel=1300, Right Wheel=1200
TRAILER AXLE WEIGHT=2500
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=500
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=3000

...and came back and weighed again This Year (2009):
08 ESCAPE B 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=1220, Right Wheel=1120
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=2340
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=320
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=2660
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:58 AM   #12
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An Escape owner weighed Last Year (2008)...
[b]08 ESCAPE B 17
TRAILER AXLE 1: Left Wheel=[b]1300, Right Wheel=[b]1200
TRAILER AXLE WEIGHT=[b]2500
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=[b]500
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=[b]3000

...and came back and weighed again This Year (2009):
[b]08 ESCAPE B 17
Trailer axle 1: Left Wheel=[b]1220, Right Wheel=[b]1120
TRAILERíS TOTAL AXLE WEIGHT=[b]2340
TRAILER HITCH WEIGHT=[b]320
TOTAL TRAILER WEIGHT=[b]2660
Frederick,
Do you know what accounted for less weight this year in this Escape at weigh-in?
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Frederick, Robert and Eric,
Thanks for all the work gathering this information and sharing it with us
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Do you know what accounted for less weight this year in this Escape at weigh-in?
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If I remember correctly, The owner told me that the major difference was that in 2008 the Fresh Water Tank was [b]Full, and in 2009 the Fresh Water Tank was [b]Empty.
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