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Old 07-20-2010, 01:32 AM   #15
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We are surprised at how light the tongue weights are though. Shouldn't the tongue weight be 10 - 15 % of the total trailer weight?
That's what I thought, too... but it seems to be similar to my Fiber Stream which only has 7% on the tongue.
#7 has an extra cargo box on the tongue with 2 six-volt Golf Cart batteries to bring the weight up.
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Old 07-21-2010, 07:30 PM   #16
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Thank you, Frederick. I think everyone should take advantage of the service you provide. I know I find it very interesting. Now I know where the weight goes when the WDH is in use.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:43 AM   #17
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Wow, thanks Fredrick. We were wondering what the 19 ft Escapes would look like on paper. They were very nice inside. We are surprised at how light the tongue weights are though. Shouldn't the tongue weight be 10 - 15 % of the total trailer weight?

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Kathie I know on at least one of those 19' Escapes that came in with the low tongue weight of 240 ish that they had 2 fairly heavy bikes on the back which would have been a large part of why the tonque weight was so low.
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Allow me to clarify. Tongue weight, with the bikes on the rear of the trailer, was 320 pounds. Tongue weight without the bikes (but with Thule rack) was 360 pounds. One bike is 30.8 pounds and the other is 35.6 pounds. The Thule rack is 23.1 pounds. Grand total 89.5 on the rear, yet the difference in tongue weight was 40 pounds. This 40 pounds difference was exactly the same on a 17' Casita SD

With or without the bikes, the Escape tows very well. And the 19' Escape is very, very, very nice!!
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:20 PM   #19
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I don't think yours was one of the ones Katie was questioning -sounds like yours came in with a weight more in line with what one might expect but a couple of others came in at 240 lbs on the tongue. Perhaps there bikes were heavier? LOL or it was that and they had a few other things stowed inside to the rear.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:53 PM   #20
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trailer weight and towing capacity

Here is a great link that was given on another site; it helps to determine actual towing capacities of your tow vehicle: Travel Trailer Weight Calculator
I think lots of folks tend to tow more than they really should and it can be dangerous as well as hard on the tow vehicle. The site at this link (above) has lots of great info throughout.
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:03 PM   #21
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Fred,
I'd be interested to know if the Left to Right difference on the Scamp 16 is typical and does left indicate the Driver's side?

Thank you, Norm Milliard
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1. (Is) the Left to Right difference on the Scamp 16 ... typical?
2. does left indicate the Driver's side?
1. I have found that a Left to Right difference IS typical, and it exists on most trailers, not just the Scamp 16.
Left to Right balance is so rare that I believe it only happens by a concentrated effort from the Current Owner of any particular trailer...

2. Yes
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Thank you Fred also thanks for providing the neat service of trailer weighing.

We always weigh ours by the tire patch method (tire area on the ground times tire pressure). It seems to be relatively accurate and definitely so for determinging side to side differences.

It would seem worthwhile to balance the trailer from side to side and once we get our Scamp home I will take that into consideration as I modify it.

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We always weigh ours by the tire patch method (tire area on the ground times tire pressure). It seems to be relatively accurate...
I haven't heard of that before, and I find it quite intriguing. Could you elaborate?
How do you measure the tire area on the ground? Is it in square inches?
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It looks like a 19ft Escape is within my towing capabilities!

Now, If Reace would just give me one
Reece would love to give you one. [small fee included]
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I haven't heard of that before, and I find it quite intriguing. Could you elaborate?
How do you measure the tire area on the ground? Is it in square inches?
I park the trailer on a flat suface or pull the trailer onto a piece of 2x6. I take two pieces of white paper and slide them in on each side of the tire (the front and back) and measure the distance between pieces of paper to get the length of the tire track. I then repeat and measure the width of the tire patch.

Multiplying these two dimensions gives me the area of the tire in contact with the ground. I than measure the tire pressure and multiply it by the area. The product is the weight on that wheel. I repeat the process for the other side.

I do roughly correct for the tread pattern, reducing the width by the width of the tread cuts.

I used to do this for our Motorhome and after doing it, scale weighted the motorhome and the results were very accurate.

Though some may question the precision, it is certainly accurate for measuring side to side differences in weight.

We use a bathroom scale to measure tongue weight.

Hope that was clear,

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Fred,
I'd be interested to know if the Left to Right difference on the Scamp 16 is typical and does left indicate the Driver's side?

Thank you, Norm Milliard
Norm my best quess as to why one side weighs more than the other is that on a Scamp 16' with a side bath there are a number of heavy items on the left. The bathroom - which usually has at least some water in the blackwater tank - also the stove and fridge - which in my case may contain a few heavy wine bottles :-) Most also carry their pots and pans etc on that side.
To balance it out Scamp has put the hot water and freash water tanks on the right side - also some have the AC or microwave in the closest on the right to balance it out but others like myself do not. Lot of room in the closest for storing other heavy items to help balance it. Worth keeping the balance in mind when packing - which some of us forget about that from time to time. :-) When camping with water hook ups which most had when the trailers where weighed it is not likely they would have any water in the freash water tank - so it is likely you would see a weight difference between the two sides.
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Norm my best quess as to why one side weighs more than the other is that on a Scamp 16' with a side bath there are a number of heavy items on the left. The bathroom - which usually has at least some water in the blackwater tank - also the stove and fridge - which in my case may contain a few heavy wine bottles :-) Most also carry their pots and pans etc on that side.
To balance it out Scamp has put the hot water and freash water tanks on the right side - also some have the AC or microwave in the closest on the right to balance it out but others like myself do not. Lot of room in the closest for storing other heavy items to help balance it. Worth keeping the balance in mind when packing - which some of us forget about that from time to time. :-) When camping with water hook ups which most had when the trailers where weighed it is not likely they would have any water in the freash water tank - so it is likely you would see a weight difference between the two sides.
Thank you Carol,

We pick up our Scamp in the morning and I intend to check it's weight as soon as we get it. Hopefully we can balance the rig out after we do our list of 40 mods. We do always carry fresh water since we're virtually on the road continuously, usually a half tank. We'lllet the site know how it turns out.

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