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Old 07-28-2015, 04:31 PM   #15
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There's that fiberglass urban myth again, anyway it is a very easy conversion for a standard, which can be done in one day with ordinary hand tools.
Well the only data I have seen on the weight (real world spreadsheet) has only one 16 DLX and it was a few hundred lbs more.. but who knows why. The 13 DLXs were actually lighter I think, so I will accept your word about it being a myth.

The money however is not a myth.. and still an obstacle.

When I get ready to convert the sofa/bunk to a table I might have to call on you for advice. None of the user mods I have seen are as nice as the one in the DLX that you showed above and I would like to do as good a job as possible, maybe even keep it so one bunk could be made up.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:22 PM   #16
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I tossed my table for the same reason - too hard on the back, and the hinge connected to the wall was distressed, ready to break.

I use a three piece folding varnished wood insert that fits between the two sofas. The three pieces are hinged so that each piece folds into the center piece. Unfolded, they are perfect bed foundation. Folded, it's width fits perfectly between the two sofas. It serves as a bench or a "coffee table".
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:27 PM   #17
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Well the only data I have seen on the weight (real world spreadsheet) has only one 16 DLX and it was a few hundred lbs more.. but who knows why. The 13 DLXs were actually lighter I think, so I will accept your word about it being a myth.

The money however is not a myth.. and still an obstacle.

When I get ready to convert the sofa/bunk to a table I might have to call on you for advice. None of the user mods I have seen are as nice as the one in the DLX that you showed above and I would like to do as good a job as possible, maybe even keep it so one bunk could be made up.
The money side can also fool ya. It depends on what options you choose.
The Deluxe interior does cost more but it comes with some niceties and choices not available on the Standard. Also some options are included which are extra cost on the standard. Depending on what you want, the end cost of the Deluxe option can be mitigated by nearly half.
My advice is to price it both ways when you get down to purchase, then make your decision.
Unless of course you really like one over the other, then buy what you like the best.
Honestly if there is a bit of a budget stretch involved then buy what you really like then add a couple of items later.
You can't easily convert a standard to a deluxe, but you can save on the intial investment by getting A/C prep (free I think) instead of A/C or get the awning later for example. There's a couple thousand$ postponed.

After eleven years My Scamp Deluxe has paid for itself repeatedly and I have never looked at it even once and thought... If only I had....
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:09 PM   #18
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Great ideas, I never thought such a conversion can be done. Love that idea. The table is heavy - not sure why it was made like that - there's got to be a lightweight alternative that would be strong enough to eat/sleep on. Though I understand price is also a consideration Scamp most likely needed to keep in mind. Anyone have any ideas on economical lightweight table/sleep board? Ours is a bit warped and will need changing out until we get brave enough to convert front bench into dinette.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:26 PM   #19
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See my comment above about a 3-piece folding sleep board...it was hand-made.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:39 PM   #20
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I think the table may be particle board which is much denser than plywood or even real wood in most cases. Denser also means heavier.

Plywood cut same size as table and of same thickness would probably be lighter, could possibly use plywood sized one thickness down also and still have enough strength. But that is a guess since I have never tried.

Even without the nice box seat across the back one could do a stand table (center pole) using the existing table cut down or used as a pattern to trace. Then just lay a board with small blocks to hold it in place across the back. Couple of cushions and your in business.

Or worst case you have to use a front board to support that back piece. Either way painted white it would probably look fairly decent, provide the lighter table and even allow two people to nap without making the bed.

Just for the record I'm talking about making a quick version of this layout, can always come back later to make it nicer.
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:42 PM   #21
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My 3 piece folding piece is made out of birch hardwood, matches the cabinetry.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:07 PM   #22
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My 3 piece folding piece is made out of birch hardwood, matches the cabinetry.
I think same idea at work, I suggested painting white because my cabinets are white.

I think making it 3 pieces that fold or two with the larger being the table and the smaller the wrap around seat are probably the most straight forward. Either one is a fairly modest project and not really a destructive project.

Turning the front into a dinette is fairly major project and will probably involve making the original configuration a non option without a bunch of work. Switching to a fold up or sectioned rear table not so much.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:47 PM   #23
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What about replacing the standard table pole with a pneumatic adjustable post, like found on inexpensive rolling desk chairs?
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:55 PM   #24
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We, too, find it more convenient to just leave the bed in place in our 13' Scamp. One of the most useful dining items, for both inside and outside, we've found are small dining trays like you find in a cafeteria. The key is to get the small kind so you can easily walk in and out of the narrow trailer doorway.We generally, only have a simple breakfast inside the trailer. My husband sits on the couch and I sit on the bed. The trays allow us to balance our plates/cups on our lap or set them beside us. We only set up the dinette in inclement weather.
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:08 PM   #25
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Thanks for the response. I might try that, or a small "TV tray." The problem is that I like to eat and sit at the table where I can get a better view of the great outdoors than on the couch. I was hoping that someone had an idea of how to hoist the table up with less effort.
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:36 PM   #26
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I was hoping that someone had an idea of how to hoist the table up with less effort.
I replaced my Scamp table with an Oak Plywood table with rounded edges. The plywood is about half the weight of the original table and the rounded profile on the edges allow it to slip past the cushions with much less fuss. I am very satisfied with the improvement.

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Old 09-07-2015, 09:18 PM   #27
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Thanks for the idea! That might be my solution.
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:41 PM   #28
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Here is a link to a pic of the table I made.
New table for our Scamp
Cheers, john
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