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Old 09-06-2017, 12:02 PM   #15
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Thank you everyone for your replies. It's hard for me to believe so many of you so quickly took time to thoughtfully and thoroughly reply. I've been to other forums for unrelated things before and often waited days for a single unhelpful response. This is truly a dedicated community.

Thanks for the honesty about safety! I'd much rather have to start changing my ideas now than be unsafe later. It's starting to sound like I should visit an RV convention to see how other's use their smaller campers before I get going after pipe dreams. If a portable toilet and shower means we can be safely on the road vs unsafe, thats starting to sound like a good idea.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:05 PM   #16
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Hi Rob,

Welcome aboard.

My 2013 Outback happens to be for sale. We've used it as a daily driver and toad behind our motorhome.

Has the 6 speed manual transmission, trailer hitch installed, etc.

PM me if you might be interested in more information.

Thanks

Dan
Dan, thanks so much for the offer. The wife and I put a lot of miles on cars for our job, so we're looking new to keep it around for a few more years. I might definitely start looking for a used something though if it means pulling the dream camper
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:08 PM   #17
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. If a portable toilet and shower means we can be safely on the road vs unsafe, thats starting to sound like a good idea.
It's also usually the case if you camp in campgrounds that you don't really need either except maybe for middle of the night runs. Sure simplifies camping when there is no stop at the dump station on the way out.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:13 PM   #18
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Well this outback has 60k miles on the odometer but pretty much the entire drive train was replaced at just over 50K. The car was in gear while towing it. Progressive Insurance covered having Subaru replace new short block, heads, transmission, clutch, tires, exhaust.... pretty much the drive train. You can save enough buying my Outback to pay a huge chunk of your trailer!
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:19 PM   #19
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Thank you everyone for your replies. It's hard for me to believe so many of you so quickly took time to thoughtfully and thoroughly reply. I've been to other forums for unrelated things before and often waited days for a single unhelpful response. This is truly a dedicated community.

Thanks for the honesty about safety! I'd much rather have to start changing my ideas now than be unsafe later. It's starting to sound like I should visit an RV convention to see how other's use their smaller campers before I get going after pipe dreams. If a portable toilet and shower means we can be safely on the road vs unsafe, thats starting to sound like a good idea.
In the outer banks in the first week of October will be a fiberglass glass camper get together. Stop by and see what they are doing.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:45 PM   #20
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In the outer banks in the first week of October will be a fiberglass glass camper get together. Stop by and see what they are doing.
That's one of the best suggestions yet!!
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Old 09-06-2017, 02:02 PM   #21
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Welcome!
We have a Subaru Outback and are pulling a Scamp 13ft. Our Scamp has a toilet, shower, A/C on roof, awning, 54" bed. We love it and have no trouble pulling it. We have electric brakes on the trailer.
Hope you find something you like. Come to a fiberglass rally (they are listed on this site too) and take a look at some different campers.
Ann and Joe
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Old 09-06-2017, 02:18 PM   #22
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Welcome !
Not sure if my reply went through. We pull a 13ft Scamp with our Subaru Outback with no problem. Our Scamp has toilet, shower, 2 burner stove, sink, frig (no freezer), A/C on the roof, awning and 54" bed. It has electric brakes and we have no problem pulling it with the Outback. It will only be for the two of you though. The Scamp 16 has the option of sleeping four, however you are above your towing capacity.
Come to a fiberglass rally and take a look at some different campers and talk to people. The rallies are listed on this site too.
Good luck...you won't be sorry😀
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Old 09-06-2017, 03:58 PM   #23
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Towing with a Subaru

Welcome to the forum.

I've been towing a Scamp Deluxe 13 ft with bathroom with my 2002 3.6 Outback over Cascades and Rocky Mountains (OR, WA, BC) for 5 years with no problems...pulls easily. But I don't fill the trailer's water reservoir or carry extra weight such as canned goods in the trailer... and I have trailer brakes.
The 13 footer is OK with 2 people or 1+ dog....

If you're planning a family soon, I suggest you look into a trailer larger than 13 ft and a another brand of a towing vehicle. Others on this forum have provided great advice. One option would be to get a Subaru for a safe, family car, and a used tow vehicle that will pull the larger trailer that will fit your upcoming famiy needs.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:09 AM   #24
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Nice to know there's a rally soon right here in NC! Any excuse to go to the outer banks is a good one.

Looks like I've got to choose between four people on the inside of a 13', or two in, two out with a bathroom. Narrowing it down!

Could anyone recommend a good portable toilet or shower? For simplicity's sake it seems like this would be a good compromise to accept. My brother lived out of a camper for awhile so I do know the potential horrors of indoor trailer plumbing.
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I agree (about RV plumbing). Given the same two alternatives I would do the same. Oh wait... I already did- a Scamp 13 without bath for four people!

I don't have experience with a porta-potty or enclosure, since my wife unequivocally vetoed the idea in favor of campgrounds with facilities, but there are lots of choices. Your big decision will be whether to get one small enough to fit in the enclosure Scamp provides (pretty small) or a larger one to last longer when camping away from facilities. The Thetford Curve seems to be well-recommended for a larger unit, but it's pricey.

I recently saw one clever, inexpensive hack for a backcountry shower: a pressure sprayer meant for applying pesticides or weed control. Heat a little water on the stove, mix it with cold water to take the chill off, pump and go.

A lot depends on how long you plan to be out without facilities. I camp with three females and we can easily last 3-4 days on sponge baths. When I had longer hair (many years ago!) I could wash it in a basin. Full hot body showers are a modern luxury, not a necessity.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:26 AM   #26
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Thanks for the insight, Jon. I can't even call myself a rookie with 0 hours of experience under my belt, but knowing you have a family of four getting along happily in a 13' gives me confidence.

I think once the wife and I start seriously discussing this it will be an easy choice. Whatever makes her happy on the road makes me happy

This whole dream is probably 1-2 years out for us, but I like feeling prepared for every option.
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I don't know how much difference there is between portable toilets, but if you are going to keep it in a privacy tent outside, consider the Thetford Curve or another taller one. It's a lot easier to get up and down from a normal-height toilet. Some of the smaller ones are pretty short. Holding tanks are usually 2.5-5 gallons. A full 2.5 is easily carried, a full 5 gallon would weigh >40 lbs, but you'd have to empty the former twice as often. (More of an issue for a family than for a single person, but also depends on how you use it.) Look for one with a pouring spout from the waste tank as it will be cleaner to empty. Most of the non-bathroom trailers come with a cabinet intended for the portapotti but the taller ones may not fit so I'd wait for the trailer first.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:27 AM   #28
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Check Zodi for better quality outdoor showers that last more than one trip. I would also consider a tankless on demand water heater as an alternative. You want a propane version. It could be set up for most likely outdoor use. When it gets too cold outside, plan B is campground showers.

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