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Old 01-29-2013, 05:22 PM   #15
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Silent electricity from propane? That would be too cool!
I wonder how much it will weigh?
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:26 PM   #16
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I don't think they have an actual available shipping product. And when/if they do I suspect it will cost a fortune. But man! I want one!!! Silent electricity from propane? That would be too cool!
WooWoo, I signed up for their updates on products. If I could just run a small A/C I would be happy and my Mac Puppy would be happy too!
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:33 PM   #17
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If you do end up choosing a 16, and determine the Outback isn't quiet enough TV, I'd be curious what you end up considering.

I pretty much want the smallest, most efficient van/wagon that will tow a 16 with no stress. ("No stress" being relative I know).
Yeah, I think we are on the same page here. I am pretty sure if it gets to the point I have to ditch my van, I will end up with the Outback first and then search for a used 13'.

When I retired (early) I thought the van problems were solved and I would be ok for a few years before I had to seriously look at buying something.

Ya know what they say about life being a series of challenges - good thing I like challenges!!

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:40 PM   #18
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I wonder how much it will weigh?
I tried contacting them last summer. As I recall they had gotten some military contract that was taking up the capacity of the whole company. The consumer RV product was on hold and no one who knew anything about it would ever call me back.

Looks like it's 30ish lbs, 125 watts. So you won't be running AC off that.

http://www.protonex.com/downloads/pr..._1%2010810.pdf

Here's a 250 watt from Germany, about 90lbs.

Truma - VeGA fuel cell

Long way from replacing a standard generator, sadly. Seems like solar would do about the same thing cheaper in many circumstances. Anyway, glad to see the possibility of realistic fuel cell products. Hopefully they will get cheaper, lighter, more powerful.
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Yeah, I think we are on the same page here. I am pretty sure if it gets to the point I have to ditch my van, I will end up with the Outback first and then search for a used 13'.

When I retired (early) I thought the van problems were solved and I would be ok for a few years before I had to seriously look at buying something.

Ya know what they say about life being a series of challenges - good thing I like challenges!!

How bad is the van? You could possibly tow with it. Having plenty of storage space will be welcome if you full time in a 13 I promise!

You can do a lot of repairs cheaper than buying a new car. That said, continuously wasting money on a vehicle that just keeps breaking is no good.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:59 PM   #20
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WooWoo, I signed up for their updates on products. If I could just run a small A/C I would be happy and my Mac Puppy would be happy too!
Nope, you can't. It's 125 watt continuous about 1/10 or 1/20th the continuous power you'd need for AC. It's geared towards keeping a set of batteries charged up. It doesn't provide much power at one time.

I suggested it thinking it was more powerful, hadn't looked at the specs since the summer. In sunny Florida, a set of solar panels would give you the same power, but you won't be running AC on solar either.

I think at this point a internal combustion generator will be your only bet for running AC without shore power.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:19 PM   #21
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Rebecca,

We travel extensively in our 1991 Scamp 16, 315 days last year, and our Scamp is heavily modified for the two of us. Virtually every nook and cranny has been converted into storage space of one kind or another. As well we have a box on our rear bumper and 5 additional small and large boxes under the trailer. It weighs 2430 lbs including 200 lbs of tongue weight.

Though we carry a lot, nothing that's particularly heavy.

We tow our trailer with a vehicle comparible in horsepower and torque to the Subaru and have been very satisfied. We are particularly happy with the mileage and reliability we have experienced. Our trips have included multile loops of the USA, numerous cross Rockies trips and many long dirt road travels.

I believe a Scamp 16 can be configured to be towed by a Subaru, obviously because people do it.

I think the primary issue is keeping the tongue weight low. We do this by using only one Propane tank and one battery. As well we have a room sized air conditioner built in to the bottom of our closet. It only draws 5 amps when running.

Though we do not travel in FL in the summer, we have found it adequate to cool the trailer to a comfortable level. We usually turn on the AC and use a small fan to blow the cold air around the trailer.

For us the major issue is humidity, particularly when cooking in the trailer.

We have not tried to run our AC on a small generator but I would be surprised if it would not run and I intend to test it when we get home.

We have carried a small generator in the back of our CRV and it has not been a problem. It is a little heavy at 40 lbs but very doable, we never move it too far.

As to towability with vehicles like the Subaru or or CRV we have not ever felt unsecure with the trailer, as Ginny says she feels like there's someone behind us that's following too close, other than that we hardly notice it's there. I will say we rarely go over 60 mph on any road.

Of course our Scamp 16 has brakes and have never had a problem stopping, something most Scamp 13s do not have. We have experienced
no abnormal wear on our CRV's brakes and in 180,000 miles no drive train repairs.

We do love our Scamp but do admit we would probably love any brand of fiberglass trailer we have seen so far....
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Welding a mount on the rear of a 13'er for your generator is certainly possible, it's been done. Also possible to put it on the tongue. I would suggest getting a nice quiet genny like the Honda eu2000i so it doesn't disturb others (or you). They are only about 40 lbs, if I recall correctly... light enough that you may be able to pick it up and set it on the ground if you decide the vibration bothers you.

Which end you put the genny depends largely on what your tongue weight will be. If over 200 lbs, mount it on the rear and it will lighten your tongue.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:36 PM   #23
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How bad is the van? You could possibly tow with it. Having plenty of storage space will be welcome if you full time in a 13 I promise!

You can do a lot of repairs cheaper than buying a new car. That said, continuously wasting money on a vehicle that just keeps breaking is no good.
I gave you some details on the van in the thread about the Delica. I REALLY hope the spark plug wires are the culprit, if I could just get this van dependable for a while longer I would be so happy. I would then rebuild the ginny.

Then when I buy something else, balancing cost, functionality, safety and convenience will not be so difficult (I think)
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Could be those plug wires! When my old 91 Miata starts running rough, I pretty much just buy a new set of plugs and wires right off the bat. Cheap and seems to fix it every few years. it's nice to choose to sell a running vehicle rather than be forced to sell a flakey one! Hope it works out!

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I gave you some details on the van in the thread about the Delica. I REALLY hope the spark plug wires are the culprit, if I could just get this van dependable for a while longer I would be so happy. I would then rebuild the ginny.

Then when I buy something else, balancing cost, functionality, safety and convenience will not be so difficult (I think)
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