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Old 02-25-2015, 03:42 PM   #99
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This discussion is tiresome.
Nobody is going to convince the other.
Amen to that Glenn. I sometimes carry where its legal, and sometimes not. Its a personal decision, and I make it for a number of reasons, which are personal. This issue is filled with emotion and it polarizes people. When I camp, I want to meet new people, experience new things and make new friends. One sure fire way to squash that is to argue for or against issues like this one.

On a gun forum I will take a different tack. As a very wise man once said, "to everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." Back to the subject of boondocking, anyone?
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Old 02-25-2015, 04:17 PM   #100
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Was just saying that everyone has a different view on this subject so agreeing that everyone has different opions and moving on.
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Old 02-25-2015, 04:52 PM   #101
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[Moderator Note] Things have been relatively civil here despite an often heated topic. PLEASE keep comments objective, and allow others to voice an opinion. There are no wrong opinions, whether others agree with them or not. The more civil we keep a discussion, the more we can learn from those with opposing views.

As mentioned early on in this thread, if things get heated, the door will be closed.[/End Moderator Note]

I for one would like to try to understand the folks on the other side of this issue better. No, it will not change my opinion, but it would help me better appreciate their point of view.

What I think we see on this topic is a lack of understanding, as much as a differing of opinion. You have to understand that for most Canadians, carrying weapons is not an option for the public, something we are more than comfortable with, and we can't understand the reasoning behind the felling you need to defend yourself when camping. I hear lots of US folks too that feel comfortable without a firearm on them at all times too.

Camping has been a big part of my life since being a young teen. Until my early 30's it was always done in a tent, and mostly in the backcountry. Since then it has been mostly trailers with some backcountry still thrown in. More that 90% of my camping is boondocking now. I have never once felt a need to defend myself against anything, or anyone, while camping. I have spent 100's of nights in bear/wolf/cougar country, and though careful, was never really concerned. I have only met wonderful people while camping, and enjoy the relaxed lifestyle.

What I fail to understand, is what makes one feel any safer with a weapon at the ready while camping? Why would one feel the need to defend their trailer, and just what it is you need to defend against? Please understand that this concept of wanting to carry a weapon is quite foreign to me.

I guess to me, it would seem my intended purpose of going camping to relax would be defeated with the feeling of worrying about defending myself.

The bottom line for me, is how do I get the most enjoyment and relaxation out of my camping experience.
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Old 02-25-2015, 05:35 PM   #102
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As much as some would like to deny it- evil and danger are present in our world. Being as prepared to deal with that as possible in no way detracts from my camping experience, in fact it strengthens it by mitigating that worry. Just because it has not happened to you, does not mean that it cannot.
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Amen to that Glenn. I sometimes carry where its legal, and sometimes not. Its a personal decision, and I make it for a number of reasons, which are personal. This issue is filled with emotion and it polarizes people. When I camp, I want to meet new people, experience new things and make new friends. One sure fire way to squash that is to argue for or against issues like this one.

On a gun forum I will take a different tack. As a very wise man once said, "to everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." Back to the subject of boondocking, anyone?
Robert, if you go back to the first post in this thread, the OP was asking about this subject specifically, it was not a general 'boondocking' thread.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:05 PM   #104
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Robert, if you go back to the first post in this thread, the OP was asking about this subject specifically, it was not a general 'boondocking' thread.
I stand corrected Jeff. Thanks.
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If you walk down a remote trail and you and your partner are attacked by a hungry bear or a mountain lion would you just lay down and die for the animal that's only trying to feed itself as nature intended or would you shoot it and live to hike another day and feel bad for doing it? I guess you could leave the slower partner as food and go find a ranger to take official matters in their own hands absolving yourself from doing any offensive dirty deeds. Its no different in the 2 legged world. There are a few people out there that follow natures animal kingdom rules rather than social mandates. When trapped with no other recourse its up to you to decide to protect, flight, defend or to survive to call authorities to clean up the mess and prosecute any offenders of your belief system. Only you can decide whats important to you. As much as you want respect for your beliefs so do others who do not follow the same belief path you choose. I hope when people are in pleasure mode no one ever has to make these choices by force.
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:04 PM   #106
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If you find yourself and a partner on a remote trail and are chased by a hungry bear remember....you do not have to out run the bear...you do however have to out run your partner!!!

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I have spend many 100's of nights in the thick of bear country sleeping in a tent, and hiking the trails, and the only encounters I had with them, saw the bear running away faster that me in opposite directions. Well, not totally true, I have had to chase them away a couple times, but loud shouts or banging on a pot will work just fine.

In all the time I have been in cougar country, I am one of those people that was never fortunate to actually see one. Lots and lots of fresh tracks, especially when ski touring in the winter. They are not referred to as the ghost of the wilderness for nothing.

I would be way more people are killed or hurt by falling rocks, than by bears or cougars.
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I'm glad the country you camp in is the United States because if you were to try to bring a 12ga shotgun and 00 buckshot, undeclared, into Canada or Mexico, your new "Home" would likely be a prison cell. BTW, that "someone" that is going to tell you what you can and cannot have at a US or Mexican Border is wearing a side arm and takes a dim view of such infractions.
At Canadian border for US citizen, just declare your 12 ga. shotgun & OO buckshot, fill out a short form, pay $25 US and its completely legal. I have done it twice now, headed to Alaska, "boon docking" deep in the wilderness. We do need to return to Boondocking. Some are familiar with weapons and some are not and both are right for each. At the very least, one's RV is one's castle so the Castle Doctrine kicks in for most US states.
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I know the Canadian law....I do however resent paying $25 (per long gun) to retain my weapon in Canada....that is why I camp in the USA.
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I know the Canadian law....I do however resent paying $25 (per long gun) to retain my weapon in Canada....that is why I camp in the USA.
Me too ! However a trailer trip to Alaska requires entering and exiting Canada so I'll have to pay. I will also do my very best to not spend any money in Canada. I'll have to purchase fuel but that will be all.
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youtube.com has a funny slant on gun control. Type in "Jim Jefferies on Gun Control".

It's full of swear words so if swearing offends you....don't go there!!!!!
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In all the time I have been in cougar country, I am one of those people that was never fortunate to actually see one. Lots and lots of fresh tracks, especially when ski touring in the winter. They are not referred to as the ghost of the wilderness for nothing.
I have yet to meet a man who has seen a cougar in the wild. I grew up where they were supposedly "prevalent", but never saw a single one, and I spent alot of time in the mountains. If they don't want to be seen, they won't be.
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